TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards was a good defender a while back, I wouldn't be so against it if we had got Santon used to playing at right back, because he certainly isn't a left back. Between the two of them they could provide a decent option. So cut out middle man and dont buy Richards, saves spending while hes crocked. I can only assume the price will be a good one and we reckon he's not a perma crock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh my god. Santon at Right Back. Pass the razor blade. You people. You rightly criticise Pardew for not playing players in their best/preferred position then advocate playing Santon there, who 1. prefers playing at left back and 2. Hasn't shown anything at all in that position. The only reason that I can see for playing him there is that he's right footed. Well yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh my god. Santon at Right Back. Pass the razor blade. You people. You rightly criticise Pardew for not playing players in their best/preferred position then advocate playing Santon there, who 1. prefers playing at left back and 2. Hasn't shown anything at all in that position. The only reason that I can see for playing him there is that he's right footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Love how a report on reports can generate so much discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. Did play 29 league games when they won the league in 2012. If it is the Richards of 11/12, it's a no-brainer. What we would get is a poorly-motivated, injury-prone, tactically-limited player who isn't anywhere near his best form though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportnet Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 i cant see the logic in selling mym and buying richards. they are basically the same player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh my god. Santon at Right Back. Pass the razor blade. You people. You rightly criticise Pardew for not playing players in their best/preferred position then advocate playing Santon there, who 1. prefers playing at left back and 2. Hasn't shown anything at all in that position. The only reason that I can see for playing him there is that he's right footed. Well yeah. Well yeah? He's not a right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh my god. Santon at Right Back. Pass the razor blade. You people. You rightly criticise Pardew for not playing players in their best/preferred position then advocate playing Santon there, who 1. prefers playing at left back and 2. Hasn't shown anything at all in that position. The only reason that I can see for playing him there is that he's right footed. Did start his career as a right winger bro. iirc it was Mou who bigged him up as a left back back in the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. Did play 29 league games when they won the league in 2012. If it is the Richards of 11/12, it's a no-brainer. What we would get is a poorly-motivated, injury-prone, tactically-limited player who isn't anywhere near his best form though. If we are going to sell Debuchy for £10-12 million, I can think of far worse options than Richard for £3-5 million. The fact that he has proved he has the talent previously would make it a gamble worth taking in my opinion. Would I prefer someone like Aurier? Yes, but the chances of us getting him are pretty low (either because he wouldn't come or we wouldn't spend the money). Is your suggestion that he is poorly motivated based on anything in particular by the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Plenty on twitter suggesting Richards is better than Debuchy or even more f***ing stupid saying we dont need to replace him as Santon/Raylor will be good enough fullbacks Some of our fans are clueless like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 i cant see the logic in selling mym and buying richards. they are basically the same player Say what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh my god. Santon at Right Back. Pass the razor blade. You people. You rightly criticise Pardew for not playing players in their best/preferred position then advocate playing Santon there, who 1. prefers playing at left back and 2. Hasn't shown anything at all in that position. The only reason that I can see for playing him there is that he's right footed. Well yeah. Well yeah? He's not a right back. Steve Howey wasn't a defender but that's where Keegan played him. IMO Santon is wasted at left back because he won't get behind the defence and cuts inside every time, which makes the defenders job easy, and the crosses mostly useless. Compare that with Debuchy or Raylor's delivery when they play as full back. Santon has played RB before in Italy and could easily do it again if he was given a run at it IMO. A full back is a full back, if anything, being on his natural side should bring out much more in his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Deep down inside the Russian doll that is Santon there is no defender. Never has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh my god. Santon at Right Back. Pass the razor blade. You people. You rightly criticise Pardew for not playing players in their best/preferred position then advocate playing Santon there, who 1. prefers playing at left back and 2. Hasn't shown anything at all in that position. The only reason that I can see for playing him there is that he's right footed. He has never looked good at right back for us, it literally is because he has a right foot. Quite like Richards so wouldn't be against him as a Debuchy replacement. Santon is a left back or potentially midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. Did play 29 league games when they won the league in 2012. If it is the Richards of 11/12, it's a no-brainer. What we would get is a poorly-motivated, injury-prone, tactically-limited player who isn't anywhere near his best form though. If we are going to sell Debuchy for £10-12 million, I can think of far worse options than Richard for £3-5 million. The fact that he has proved he has the talent previously would make it a gamble worth taking in my opinion. Would I prefer someone like Aurier? Yes, but the chances of us getting him are pretty low (either because he wouldn't come or we wouldn't spend the money). Is your suggestion that he is poorly motivated based on anything in particular by the way? Why is it a gamble worth taking? I'd rather just keep Debuchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Deep down inside the Russian doll that is Santon there is no defender. Never has been. Kept Ronaldo at bay in the Champions League when he was 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. Did play 29 league games when they won the league in 2012. If it is the Richards of 11/12, it's a no-brainer. What we would get is a poorly-motivated, injury-prone, tactically-limited player who isn't anywhere near his best form though. If we are going to sell Debuchy for £10-12 million, I can think of far worse options than Richard for £3-5 million. The fact that he has proved he has the talent previously would make it a gamble worth taking in my opinion. Would I prefer someone like Aurier? Yes, but the chances of us getting him are pretty low (either because he wouldn't come or we wouldn't spend the money). Is your suggestion that he is poorly motivated based on anything in particular by the way? Why is it a gamble worth taking? I'd rather just keep Debuchy. I did say 'if' we are going to sell Debuchy. I would rather keep Debuchy, but I suspect Mike's eyes have lit up at the prospect of more cash. So... if we were to sell Debuchy, I would like to see us try for Aurier, but would be happy with Richards as I think he is underrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. At Man City, who have one of the best right backs in the world playing for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Tbf, so have we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Tbf, so have we. But thanks to a couple of seasons under Pards he probably wants out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. At Man City, who have one of the best right backs in the world playing for them. Yup, not exactly like his problems were documented. Man City signing Sagna instead of sticking with an academy product who had a great 11/12 season tells you a lot too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. Did play 29 league games when they won the league in 2012. If it is the Richards of 11/12, it's a no-brainer. What we would get is a poorly-motivated, injury-prone, tactically-limited player who isn't anywhere near his best form though. If we are going to sell Debuchy for £10-12 million, I can think of far worse options than Richard for £3-5 million. The fact that he has proved he has the talent previously would make it a gamble worth taking in my opinion. Would I prefer someone like Aurier? Yes, but the chances of us getting him are pretty low (either because he wouldn't come or we wouldn't spend the money). Is your suggestion that he is poorly motivated based on anything in particular by the way? Why is it a gamble worth taking? I'd rather just keep Debuchy. I did say 'if' we are going to sell Debuchy. I would rather keep Debuchy, but I suspect Mike's eyes have lit up at the prospect of more cash. So... if we were to sell Debuchy, I would like to see us try for Aurier, but would be happy with Richards as I think he is underrated. Well, if we're going to sell Debuchy for £12m why not spend £12m getting a top class replacement in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. At Man City, who have one of the best right backs in the world playing for them. Yup, not exactly like his problems were documented. Man City signing Sagna instead of sticking with an academy product who had a great 11/12 season tells you a lot too. But we're not Man City. Richards is better than his appearance figures show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. At Man City, who have one of the best right backs in the world playing for them. Yup, not exactly like his problems were documented. Man City signing Sagna instead of sticking with an academy product who had a great 11/12 season tells you a lot too. But we're not Man City. Richards is better than his appearance figures show. Could be, but it would be a big risk imo. Anyway, as Dave said, too much discussion on a report on a report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Richards with just 18 competitive appearances over the last 2 seasons. That's how far he has fallen. At Man City, who have one of the best right backs in the world playing for them. Yup, not exactly like his problems were documented. Man City signing Sagna instead of sticking with an academy product who had a great 11/12 season tells you a lot too. But we're not Man City. Richards is better than his appearance figures show. Everyone was gagging over Richards on here a few years ago. My only concern would be the injuries, but he's still quite young and I wouldn't be that disappointed if we were in for him. He's still a very good defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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