Guest pont-toon Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 On 04/04/2015 at 21:42, Disco said: Sounds like a right Kante. Ye ke ye ke say that again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Might stop us playing the Williamson high ball hoof ngolo instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Not even Adam Armstrong alone up front prevented that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 04/04/2015 at 21:16, sempuki said: Quote Tomorrow's Express claims we're going to spend a load of money this summer... ...because Ashley reckons the prices are going to go up next year when the new TV deal kicks in. Even the most gullible fans will be having doubts now. My dad has been going for about 50 years and said loads of people aren't going to renew. These are the hardcore that have been going for decades. The thing is, while we'll never spend loads this seems exactly how Ashley's mind will work on transfers. He's liable to spend the next 2 years budget in a oner because his analysts have told him prices will skyrocket when the new money comes in. Not sure how true that is likely to be considering we only shop abroad and on the cheap though, but if it were it's exactly the kind of thing he'd do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 BBC Sport taking the piss :- @BBCSport: #nufc are chasing Aleksandar Mitrovic Danny Ings and Saido Berahino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Waiting patiently for the usual distraction article to try and cover up the scent of one of our shittiest performances ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I think it will prove very difficult to continue to attract players life Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Sissoke and Janmaat. This season has been a defining one in terms of highlighting the owners mentality towards the club. We have known for some time but more and more articles in the media and TV pundits are commenting on the issue. Even the up and coming types of players we have attracted in the past will think twice about getting involved with this shambles. No chance any PL players mentioned earlier would come here. I also think that when the figures come out season ticket cancellations will be a record high for a premier league season. We are 2 down this season and will be another 2 down for next season. Attendances will be significantly lower next season so the appeal of playing in front of 50k every home game will also be gone. Basically we're fucked until we get relegated and the fat bastard loses his TV money meal ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 19:48, mickthemagpie said: I think it will prove very difficult to continue to attract players life Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Sissoke and Janmaat. This season has been a defining one in terms of highlighting the owners mentality towards the club. We have known for some time but more and more articles in the media and TV pundits are commenting on the issue. Even the up and coming types of players we have attracted in the past will think twice about getting involved with this shambles. No chance any PL players mentioned earlier would come here. I also think that when the figures come out season ticket cancellations will be a record high for a premier league season. We are 2 down this season and will be another 2 down for next season. Attendances will be significantly lower next season so the appeal of playing in front of 50k every home game will also be gone. Basically we're fucked until we get relegated and the fat bastard loses his TV money meal ticket. Players will always move for the money but the standard will gradually drop because there is not an infinite amount of international quality players to buy and we've already running out of markets to target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 19:50, Disco said: Quote I think it will prove very difficult to continue to attract players life Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Sissoke and Janmaat. This season has been a defining one in terms of highlighting the owners mentality towards the club. We have known for some time but more and more articles in the media and TV pundits are commenting on the issue. Even the up and coming types of players we have attracted in the past will think twice about getting involved with this shambles. No chance any PL players mentioned earlier would come here. I also think that when the figures come out season ticket cancellations will be a record high for a premier league season. We are 2 down this season and will be another 2 down for next season. Attendances will be significantly lower next season so the appeal of playing in front of 50k every home game will also be gone. Basically we're fucked until we get relegated and the fat bastard loses his TV money meal ticket. Players will always move for the money but the standard will gradually drop because there is not an infinite amount of international quality players to buy and we've already running out of markets to target. It's ludicrous that the value of a decent manager is totally lost on Ashley. Imagine having a manager who could actually improve what we have instead of the parasite we have now. It would make us a more attractive prospect regardless of any other factors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 19:50, Disco said: Quote I think it will prove very difficult to continue to attract players life Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Sissoke and Janmaat. This season has been a defining one in terms of highlighting the owners mentality towards the club. We have known for some time but more and more articles in the media and TV pundits are commenting on the issue. Even the up and coming types of players we have attracted in the past will think twice about getting involved with this shambles. No chance any PL players mentioned earlier would come here. I also think that when the figures come out season ticket cancellations will be a record high for a premier league season. We are 2 down this season and will be another 2 down for next season. Attendances will be significantly lower next season so the appeal of playing in front of 50k every home game will also be gone. Basically we're f***ed until we get relegated and the fat b****** loses his TV money meal ticket. Players will always move for the money but the standard will gradually drop because there is not an infinite amount of international quality players to buy and we've already running out of markets to target. Exactly. We wont pay decent money anyway so will always be the lowest option. Remember we lost out to the likes of QPR and Swansea for this very reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I know everyone dislikes Jermaine Jenas these days but he was on the radio earlier saying that if he was leaving Nottingham Forest again he wouldn't sign NUFC as it is now, purely because of the lack of ambition. When he came here he was inspired by the players we had, what we were trying to build and the chance to develop his own game and help push the club forward. Depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hard to understand how that means anything in reality since we signed their two best prospects last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 20:43, captainhaircut said: Hard to understand how that means anything in reality since we signed their two best prospects last summer. Lets not forget the fact that he signed for QPR and was happy to sit on the Spurs bench for a number of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 20:43, captainhaircut said: Hard to understand how that means anything in reality since we signed their two best prospects last summer. He was referring to if he had his time again, not if he was at Forest now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 20:47, Dave said: Quote Hard to understand how that means anything in reality since we signed their two best prospects last summer. He was referring to if he had his time again, not if he was at Forest now. Exactly- but two players in his exact position have signed for us. It's much easier for him to say in theory than in practice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 20:57, captainhaircut said: Quote Quote Hard to understand how that means anything in reality since we signed their two best prospects last summer. He was referring to if he had his time again, not if he was at Forest now. Exactly- but two players in his exact position have signed for us. It's much easier for him to say in theory than in practice. Jenas was the hottest young property in English football when we bought him. I suspect Forest weren't inundated with bids for our two given that one of them can't even hold down a place in their team. Yes, it's theory but it's nowhere near the same as you're suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Jamaal Lascelles- who was recently asked to train with the full England squad- isn't highly rated? He's in an almost identical situation to Jenas. Linked with a large number of Prem teams and well regarded at international level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 21:07, captainhaircut said: Jamaal Lascelles- who was recently asked to train with the full England squad- isn't highly rated? He's in an almost identical situation to Jenas. Linked with a large number of Prem teams and well regarded at international level. They must've seen straight through him because he hasn't played for England 21s this season. Anyway, it's so irrelevant in the wider scheme of things RE: NUFC. I'll agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 21:07, captainhaircut said: Jamaal Lascelles- who was recently asked to train with the full England squad- isn't highly rated? He's in an almost identical situation to Jenas. Linked with a large number of Prem teams and well regarded at international level. He's not even that highly regarded at Forest, man. Jenas had captained them and was the first name on their teamsheet. I'd accuse you of playing devil's advocate but it's more like devil's fucking idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 21:12, Ronaldo said: Quote Jamaal Lascelles- who was recently asked to train with the full England squad- isn't highly rated? He's in an almost identical situation to Jenas. Linked with a large number of Prem teams and well regarded at international level. He's not even that highly regarded at Forest, man. Jenas had captained them and was the first name on their teamsheet. I'd accuse you of playing devil's advocate but it's more like devil's fucking idiot. The authority on all has spoken. If you track the amount of games played, the international recognition and the media reported interest in each player, there's barely a difference. For Jenas to suggest that first division players wouldn't be interested in joining us in nonsense- they're exactly the same as all these French internationals. They want a stage to perform and would jump at whatever we provide rather than stay at a mid table championship club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Highly rated young players with ambition and desire wouldn't come anywhere near this shithole, man. French internationals, give me a break. We've signed one (4 caps) since January 2013 and nobody else was in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Bishop will be lashing texts and emails out furiously to agents and journos to get us "linked" with some quality players in the press over the next month. £500 cash for every false rumour printed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 On 05/04/2015 at 20:49, ManDoon said: Quote I know everyone dislikes Jermaine Jenas these days but he was on the radio earlier saying that if he was leaving Nottingham Forest again he wouldn't sign NUFC as it is now, purely because of the lack of ambition. When he came here he was inspired by the players we had, what we were trying to build and the chance to develop his own game and help push the club forward. Depressing. I actually think he speaks fairly well on football tbh, I've got no real hate for him. True that disco and I agree Santi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Bit of revisionism on Jenas there as far as I recall. Bobby went to look at another player and spotted Jenas, forget the other player's name but he was a highly rated midfielder playing England under 21 at the time, think he went to Southampton or something, maybe began with P, Prutton? Something like that. Jenas was 18 and largely unknown before we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Aye, David Prutton. But I don't remember Jenas the same, £5m was a lot to pay for an 18 year old with less than 30 appearances under his belt in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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