healthyaddiction Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Probably no where as his leg's are always so fucked he can't walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Vlaar had an operation a few days ago. Won't come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 If we signed too solid centre halves I'd be over the moon. Surely McClaren will fuck Williamson off, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 If we signed too solid centre halves I'd be over the moon. Surely McClaren will f*** Williamson off, surely? You would think so, but does he have an advantage of not being a cunt off the field, probably is a model pro and considered one of the veterans of the squad, I don't think McClaren will bomb him out but I do think he will drop down the pecking order even if we don't sign any other centre halves. I feel if Lescelles has a good pre season it will be him and Colo as our first choice pair. Someone mentioned Evans or Shawcross earlier and even though they wouldn't be ideal it would be a vast improvement on what we have. I am assuming Haidara and Dummett are our LB options this season. That defence as it stands worries me a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 It would be insane to go into next season without a major defensive overhaul. 2nd worst defensive record in the league and only 4 competent defenders on the books. Still reckon it'll be colo and Taylor day 1 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 McLaren has been coaching the defence himself hasn't he? He'll surely see that we are woefully short on class there and have a word with Carr and Thumbley about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 McLaren has been coaching the defence himself hasn't he? He'll surely see that we are woefully short on class there and have a word with Carr and Thumbley about it. And then what, exactly? Jamaal Lascelles will probably play alongside a 33 year old Coloccini, with Taylor and Williamson waiting in the wings. I don't care who the coach is, it's absolutely criminal that we've had to watch these 3 clowns play in the middle of defence for, what, 6 fucking years? It also tells you something that the first signing they bring in is a midfielder, when this travesty has gone on for so long. Can somebody tell me exactly what Carr does, then? Is he too dense to see we've needed an overhaul here many moons ago? Is he complicit or just completely ignored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 We need 2 CBs this window, reasonably confident we'll sign one but probably our 3rd choice at the last minute or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Reckon we'll get one also. Realistically we need Williamson off the books & we cannot cover for both Colo/S Taylor weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Don't know why people are so desperate to move Williamson on. We're desperately short at the back and I'd get shot of Taylor before Mike any day of the week. He's a very limited defender, but until we sign an improvement he needs to stay. Plus I don't think think he's as horrific as some make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Is Lascalles actually good? Are we assuming he's automatic first choice? Is he quick? Oddly I think if we do have a quick new CB and we are still stuck with Colo (which would be a travesty) at least I think a slightly more possession focused style would make Colo not look quite so hopeless as he has of late as left exposed less. Hope McClaren sees through Taylors crap straight away as well mind, he's no 3rd choice either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Willo's appalling. And most importantly, he makes everyone around him worse because he's so terrified of the football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 If we sign a left back, Dummett will probably then be classed as centre back. Colo, Dummett, Lascelles, Willo, Taylor..... lush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 How long we in America for because we will do absolutely nothing in the transfer market whilst we are away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 How long we in America for because we will do absolutely nothing in the transfer market whilst we are away. Going by boat so we have to #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I prefer Dummett as a centre back, don't think he has the pace or athleticism to play LB like Haidara does. Ideally for the new season I would want 2 new CB's, Lascelles third choice and Dummett fourth choice (flogging Colo, Taylor and Williamson) but there's no way that'll happen now. If it was to be the case, I'd want the 2 new CB's in now working on a partnership instead of chucking them both in for the Southampton game Think it'll end up being Colo and a new CB as first choice with Dummett and Haidara rotating the left back role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 The minor saving grace is that CBs don't actually have be brilliant if your team is functioning well and the midfield is in the game. We've suffered from this many times over the years, actually OK defenders looking worse than shite because of other factors. Not saying I don't want better defenders, but something like Colo/Lascelles might not be a major liability if the players in front are well coached and on form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Agree Ian. Someone was saying out 11/12 defence is the best we've had for the last 12-13 years it wasn't, it was just because we had an effective midfield that shielded a lot of pressure from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Don't know why people are so desperate to move Williamson on. We're desperately short at the back and I'd get shot of Taylor before Mike any day of the week. He's a very limited defender, but until we sign an improvement he needs to stay. Plus I don't think think he's as horrific as some make out. He absolutely is as horrific as people make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Asking a lot to rely on a youngster as of yet, certainly one not proven in the championship. Williamson for me isn't even solid cover, we'll get an injury, he'll come in and do his usual decent headed clearances while being directly responsible for a few goals via moments of slowness or stumbling over the ball. It should be Colo/Saylor and some new lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Going off Steve Mc comments about us targeting champions league quality players in the higher price bracket, I think our main CB target is still that Monaco lad Abdennour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Going off Steve Mc comments about us targeting champions league quality players in the higher price bracket, I think our main CB target is still that Monaco lad Abdennour. Who has less interest than both Matip and Mitrovic in coming here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Going off Steve Mc comments about us targeting champions league quality players in the higher price bracket, I think our main CB target is still that Monaco lad Abdennour. Who has less interest than both Matip and Mitrovic in coming here. There has been no actual quotes from him or his agent though has there? As with Mitrovic only the club themselves no exactly what is going on. Based on the a Wijnaldum signing, I'm more confident now that we wouldn't be in for these players and making serious bids unless we know they are interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Don't know why people are so desperate to move Williamson on. We're desperately short at the back and I'd get shot of Taylor before Mike any day of the week. He's a very limited defender, but until we sign an improvement he needs to stay. Plus I don't think think he's as horrific as some make out. He absolutely is as horrific as people make out. He's just bog standard. Ladt season his obvious lack of pace was horribly exposed by the car crash next to him and our inability to keep the ball for more than thirty seconds. He took a lot of flack for Colo. Don't get me wrong he needs to be replaced, but given our lack of numbers I wouldn't be as keen to get rid as some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Don't know why people are so desperate to move Williamson on. We're desperately short at the back and I'd get shot of Taylor before Mike any day of the week. He's a very limited defender, but until we sign an improvement he needs to stay. Plus I don't think think he's as horrific as some make out. He absolutely is as horrific as people make out. Bullshit. He's even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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