Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Okay, I enjoyed this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Come on now Unless the project was to earn money, absolute bollocks did he go there to build Dalian. He could have earned money anywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, joeyt said: Everton fans crying in those responses. Gonna be a car crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: He could have earned money anywhere He was paid more per year at Newcastle than Dalian. Granted, he was the 7th best paid manager in the Premier League when he was with us. Edited June 30, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Can't blame him for making major bank for a year before a job that really appealed to him came along. It was hardly a non-project either, they're investing shitloads and he was at the centre of it. Really sad that he's going to be representing another PL team, don't care who it is really. Once he wins the fans round I think it's a good match and there's a lot of potential there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, joeyt said: He could have earned money anywhere You’ve not answered what the project was in China? If money wasn’t the decision maker and he wanted to stay with his family, why wouldn’t he take a Championship or PL team on who needed a manager around the time? Or waited for the first set of managers to get the boot? You can’t say you want to stay close to Liverpool and then move to the other side of the world into a nothing league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Can't see anyway in which it ends well but good luck to him, the two lads I know who are Evertonians are anything but impressed that they've got a Liverpool legend in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Kaizero said: He was paid more per year at Newcastle than Dalian. Granted, he was the 7th best paid manager in the Premier League when he was with us. Thought he was paid £14-16m a year there compared to the £5-6m here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: You’ve not answered what the project was in China? If money wasn’t the decision maker and he wanted to stay with his family, why wouldn’t he take a Championship or PL team on who needed a manager around the time? Or waited for the first set of managers to get the boot? You can’t say you want to stay close to Liverpool and then move to the other side of the world into a nothing league. Will have to double check but I think quite a bit has happened in the world since he took the Dalian job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: You’ve not answered what the project was in China? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Good luck Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: You can’t say you want to stay close to Liverpool and then move to the other side of the world into a nothing league. Course you can. That is your preference, but it doesn't mean no other opportunity will ever interest you ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Dokko said: Thought he was paid £14-16m a year there compared to the £5-6m here? I read it was for the extent of the contract, which would be £12m / 3 years = £4m. £12m a year would be Man City levels of money, Dalian isn't that rich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: You’ve not answered what the project was in China? If money wasn’t the decision maker and he wanted to stay with his family, why wouldn’t he take a Championship or PL team on who needed a manager around the time? Or waited for the first set of managers to get the boot? You can’t say you want to stay close to Liverpool and then move to the other side of the world into a nothing league. He was given pretty much a blank cheque to develop a club in a rising league. I'm not doubting money would have been a factor but it still sounds like a challenge which Rafa would have enjoyed. Obviously Covid and the new league restrictions probably altered that project to what he hoped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Also there was absolutely no reason to stay at Newcastle, so I'm not sure the point of this debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Some boy Rafa like, he doesn't give a shit what the outside world think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Good luck to Rafa, a legend in my eyes forever. Wish him success there. I hope he proves any doubters (everton fans) wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Bit disingenuous to the Chinese. 14th highest league revenue in the world in 2019 and growing. One of the most watched leagues in the world and football is developing fast there. For a guy like Rafa being part of a defining moment in a country's footballing history seems a perfect match. He wasn't even paid that well according to reports. Not really....it might have a lot of viewers but it's still massively behind the top leagues....years behind even the MLS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kaizero said: I read it was for the extent of the contract, which would be £12m / 3 years = £4m. £12m a year would be Man City levels of money, Dalian isn't that rich. Everything I read at the time and pulled up just there suggests £12m a year was the salary. It might be wrong, but that is pretty much all the British press getting it wrong at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Not really....it might have a lot of viewers but it's still massively behind the top leagues....years behind even the MLS Hence the project part of it. He'd be part of defining Chinese football in history if things went to plan. Edited June 30, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 The fume from the Everton fans almost makes this good, almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Love him still. Hope it all goes to pot though very selfishly. Will hate to see him succeed at another club, just too painful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dokko said: Everything I read at the time and pulled up just there suggests £12m a year was the salary. It might be wrong, but that is pretty much all the British press getting it wrong at the time. I just recall the articles when he left, but I won't argue to much as I don't know what he got paid. Either way he'd get paid good money wherever he'd gone, but if it was actually £12m a year then good on you Rafa, that's insane levels of money. 6th best paid manager in the world at the time if so. The latter is why I feel it can't be right, the guy who replaced Rafa is a literal nobody. You'd imagine they'd at least get a big league reject in to replace him if they can afford £12m a year on their manager. Edited June 30, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Gutted about Rafa, just can't fathom his thinking with this move at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kaizero said: I just recall the articles when he left, but I won't say I know what he got paid Either way he'd get paid good money wherever he'd gone. Tbf British press are fucking lazy, 1 says something and thry all repeat it like fact without any journalism involved. Apart from the Daily Star who go full muppet mode and go with 5 TIMES HIS £6m a YEAR SALARY. Anyway, so if you've read something different on the continent I'd probably stick with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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