jollof rice and pea Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'd say he convereted Mascherano because hes much quicker than Pique and a much better one v one defender rather than because of his ball playing capabilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Agree with most of it. I'd argue that "Guardiola is tactically inflexible" is a little unfair. He has some key principals but there are some obvious differences between how Barca and Bayern play. In terms of tactical changes within the games, you only have to look at the two legs with Atletico. 1 up front to 2 up front, inverted wingers to traditional wingers. He made changes and it had an impact. It still wasn't enough, but he did it. The argument that he hasn't been able to fully replicate what he had at Barca is also a little off... if you look at any team that has a very strongly defined system, eventually it gets cracked, teams learn how to play against it, and you NEED to tweak it here and there to keep getting results. A number of managers have figured out how to play against the tactics he used at Barca. Stay compact, defend the middle of the park, pressure the play maker. A change was necessary so at Bayern he's making greater use of wide players. Things need to evolve and they're going to continue to evolve. I think he will have a tough time at City, but I think the main reasons will be that: 1) City doesn't have the same draw for players. Very few would choose to sign for City over Barca, Real, Juve, or even PSG at this point. 2) At Barca and Bayern there were systems in place leftover from managers with a similar style. Most notably, he's kind of following van Gaal up until now. Man City doesn't have that same base to build on. 3) The article is right in that forcing his style on the existing City players is going to be tough. Where I think it gets it wrong is by dismissing the existing defenders. I think they're pretty well suited to a Pep team. He might bring in one more, but I think he'll fancy his chances of working with Demichelis and Otamendi. 4) Pep is a motivational coach. At Barca you have the "more than a club" nonsense. At Bayern, there's a history of dominating. At City, that doesn't exist and a lot of the players seem to be more mercenary than the average Barca or Bayern player. He needs the players to buy into the idea or it's just not going to work. I don't know if he'll be able to achieve that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 http://www.football365.com/news/phenomenal-roberto-martinezs-greatest-hits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 http://www.football365.com/news/phenomenal-roberto-martinezs-greatest-hits Media doing what the Sack Pardew lot had to do for us annoyingly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It doesn't really seem comparable to the Pardew situation IMO. I don't see him criticising his own fans or constantly lowering expectations. He said he'd deliver Champions League, most people would call that ambition, not really a lie. Criticising a foreign manager for using the same word often as well? Seems like clutching at straws when looking for things to criticise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It doesn't really seem comparable to the Pardew situation IMO. I don't see him criticising his own fans or constantly lowering expectations. He said he'd deliver Champions League, most people would call that ambition, not really a lie. Criticising a foreign manager for using the same word often as well? Seems like clutching at straws when looking for things to criticise. You're not looking very hard then. He's spent the last 18 months (since everything turned to shit) lowering expectations and bullshitting the fans with a constant stream of excuses. He's also had several digs at our support this season as an excuse for posting the worst home record since 1878. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 There doesn't seem to be any in the article posted, which is what I was commenting on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 There doesn't seem to be any in the article posted, which is what I was commenting on. Ok, I thought you were talking generally That article is just his laughable quotes. They could get a whole other article out of his sly digs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36262303 good news for Swans fans at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 How do you rate him, Groo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 How do you rate him, Groo? I think he's going to be a good thing for us, some of our fans think its bad because of our recent games against you guys and Leicester, but overall he's been very good as the results since he arrived. We were 18th when he was appointed, 21 games and 19 points. We are now 11th with 46 points, that's 27 points from 16 games. He took over a poor team with no confidence and openly stated he would not change things too quickly, which he didn't. He has a reputation of coaching players to get the best out of them, he wouldn't pick Montero as he said he needed to work on his defensive duties, when he did eventually pick him you could see the difference. I'm looking forward to next season now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just hope that doesn't mean we'll end up with Rodgers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just hope that doesn't mean we'll end up with Rodgers If Rafa leaves, we will do a hell of a lot worse than Rodgers like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Maybe so, but I would really dislike it if we got him or Martinez. We've had enough managers who talk bollocks regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 95% of managers do that. Even pretty good ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Rodgers is David Brent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Manuel Pellegrini apparently fancies the Everton job if Roberto Martinez is sacked. http://www.teamtalk.com/news/pellegrini-wants-prem-stay-and-fancies-everton-job … #EFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Guidolin is going to sign a three-year deal with Swansea apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Sampaoli in talks with Lazio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 http://www.swanseacity.net/news/article/guidolin-agrees-new-swans-deal-3108888.aspx 2 year deal signed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Rory Smith @RorySmithTimes 3m3 minutes ago Frank de Boer has left Ajax [about two years too late]. Suspect that's not going to make Roberto Martinez's evening any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Rory Smith @RorySmithTimes 3m3 minutes ago Frank de Boer has left Ajax [about two years too late]. Suspect that's not going to make Roberto Martinez's evening any better. Rafa to Ajax ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 He'd probably rather manage us in the Championship. He wants to stay in England with his family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Hope that means de Boer is going to Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Rafa wont go to Everton man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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