Dokko Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Messi strikes me as a selfish individual, you just couldn’t see him wanting to give something back to a group of fans he has nothing in common with. He’ll follow the money if he can’t return to Argentina. Im not knocking him for any of that, it’s what all top pros are told to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Messi strikes me as a selfish individual, you just couldn’t see him wanting to give something back to a group of fans he has nothing in common with. He’ll follow the money if he can’t return to Argentina. Im not knocking him for any of that, it’s what all top pros are told to do. Based on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Koeman to Barca apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Barca just do not learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Barca just do not learn. They can’t get a manager on a long term deal with the elections in 2021 - Koeman will get a 1 year deal with an option for the new board to extend it by 1 further year - if not he’ll get a bit of compo - most likely Xavi will be coach in 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Tbf, they could do worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Koeman is a good manager and he was always going to end up there at some point. Just surprised he chose now, when they're in crisis and can't shift players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Tbf, they could do worse. Yep - it just depends what they can do in the market - they have to be creative - can they spot a couple of gems from somewhere? I wouldn’t bet on it If they start next season with Pique, Alba, Busquets, Rakitic/Vidal and Suarez in the same XI, then they might as well give up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 hard to disagree with this tweet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 hard to disagree with this tweet If he doesn’t go to Barca now then he will never get the chance - I can’t blame RK - it’s literally been his dream job for when he started his management career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 It’s not like you’re guaranteed multiple chances to get the Barca job though? When someone like Koeman gets that chance, he’ll take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Edit: Yeah, what Mikky said... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 yeah but give up a Euros managing your country and who knows maybe could win it to take over a falling apart team where you know in a year you'll be kicked out of the job regardless of how you do in that time to be replaced by Xavi. And in the meantime you get to be a mudguard for the current president oh and unless you do the unthinkable you have no money to replace the old falling apart team and nothing seems to be coming through the academy either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 yeah but give up a Euros managing your country and who knows maybe could win it to take over a falling apart team where you know in a year you'll be kicked out of the job regardless of how you do in that time to be replaced by Xavi. And in the meantime you get to be a mudguard for the current president oh and unless you do the unthinkable you have no money to replace the old falling apart team and nothing seems to be coming through the academy either. They've brought through Ansu Fati and Riqui Puig this season, their B team has done much better this season as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 yeah but give up a Euros managing your country and who knows maybe could win it to take over a falling apart team where you know in a year you'll be kicked out of the job regardless of how you do in that time to be replaced by Xavi. And in the meantime you get to be a mudguard for the current president oh and unless you do the unthinkable you have no money to replace the old falling apart team and nothing seems to be coming through the academy either. They've brought through Ansu Fati and Riqui Puig this season, their B team has done much better this season as well. By Barca’s own philosophy at least 2 more will come via the B team for next season too - they just have to be creative in the market and see if they can unearth a couple of signings - have to somehow get rid of Rakitic and Vidal They then have Alena, Coutinho, Miranda, Trincao and Pjanic to come in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Barca just do not learn. They can’t get a manager on a long term deal with the elections in 2021 - Koeman will get a 1 year deal with an option for the new board to extend it by 1 further year - if not he’ll get a bit of compo - most likely Xavi will be coach in 2021 There is that. But I also think that Barca is always desperate for a coach with Barca or Catalan connection. Their sense of identity is so strong that it dominates every other quality required out of a manager. When it works it is magical and romantic. They are far more likely to be patient with Esteban Bruceiro - a random youth coach at Real Valladolid who previously worked at La Masia (making it up) than a legend like Sir Bobby Robson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Barca just do not learn. They can’t get a manager on a long term deal with the elections in 2021 - Koeman will get a 1 year deal with an option for the new board to extend it by 1 further year - if not he’ll get a bit of compo - most likely Xavi will be coach in 2021 There is that. But I also think that Barca is always desperate for a coach with Barca or Catalan connection. Their sense of identity is so strong that it dominates every other quality required out of a manager. When it works it is magical and romantic. They are far more likely to be patient with Esteban Bruceiro - a random youth coach at Real Valladolid who previously worked at La Masia (making it up) than a legend like Sir Bobby Robson. Can’t grt more romantic than Koeman - member of the dream team - he’s a Barca icon - gave them their first European Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Setien predictably sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Bet they'll sell the likes of Semedo and Griezmann while still playing Pique and Busquets 40 games a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 That sounds about right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 honestly probably City but the list of clubs that actually might be able to buy him is just City PSG and maybe Man Utd We cannot afford Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 honestly probably City but the list of clubs that actually might be able to buy him is just City PSG and maybe Man Utd We cannot afford Messi. I reckon Adidas might stump up a chunk to see him in an Adidas kit at club level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 honestly probably City but the list of clubs that actually might be able to buy him is just City PSG and maybe Man Utd We cannot afford Messi. I reckon Adidas might stump up a chunk to see him in an Adidas kit at club level. Would that even be allowed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just with the Koeman news, what other examples are there of managers falling upwards? Ones I've thought of so far: Pardew to us Martinez to Belgium Carvahal to Swansea Guess you can include Bruce but he wasn't sacked by Sheff Wed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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