Guest n4e Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I find myself in a position where I don't really like Moyes, and don't think he should have been their first choice anyway, while also thinking Man United were wrong to sack him because he hasn't had enough time to do things his way, yet. So yeah, he's shit, but you should keep him and give him a chance. I realize those two ideas don't actually work together and yet there they are. I'm a bit like that, really. He's underachieved (even with that DISGRACEFULLY AWFUL THE WORST I'VE EVER FUCKING SEEN BLARGH YUCK squad), but I still think they've dealt him a rough deal. They've decided he's not the right man, which could well be true, but I don't think he's been allowed the opportunity to prove it either way. Seems like the players never really took to him or his methods and had no respect for him though. Get the feeling it was a bit like when you got a supply teacher in at school and everyone would just take the piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ste Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It is time to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It is time to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Giggs, Butt, Phil and now Scholes. They're getting the old band back together! Any predictions on how the final few games will go? Can you imagine if they start tearing it up? The press will start clamouring for a permanent Giggs, or start touting him for other jobs, or maybe the Wales gig. Won't make Moyes look too great either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Where did Nicky Butt come out of? Was he always there in some capacity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The youth team I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Aye, youth team. Can't believe they've got Scholes back again Poor guy just wants to live a quiet life. "scholesy pls" "" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes strikes me as the type of person that thinks what he does is simple. I watched an interview with him and Gary Neville and he was asked about becoming a manager and his entire idea on how to play football was "score goals, score more goals than the other team" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes strikes me as the type of person that thinks what he does is simple. I watched an interview with him and Gary Neville and he was asked about becoming a manager and his entire idea on how to play football was "score goals, score more goals than the other team" Wonder if he'd be up for replacing Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes strikes me as the type of person that thinks what he does is simple. I watched an interview with him and Gary Neville and he was asked about becoming a manager and his entire idea on how to play football was "score goals, score more goals than the other team" It is that simple tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes strikes me as the type of person that thinks what he does is simple. I watched an interview with him and Gary Neville and he was asked about becoming a manager and his entire idea on how to play football was "score goals, score more goals than the other team" It is that simple tbh Of course it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes strikes me as the type of person that thinks what he does is simple. I watched an interview with him and Gary Neville and he was asked about becoming a manager and his entire idea on how to play football was "score goals, score more goals than the other team" It is that simple tbh Of course it isn't. no, it is. Managers like Pardew and even Moyes don't go into games naturally planning to out score the opposition. Despite often having great defences, in the league Man Utd. always played to out score opponents. If they where to 'nick' a goal on the counter as a primary plan - they really wanted and planned to get that goal. Very rarely would they play for a draw from the outset. Many teams and managers start hoping for a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Christ, what the fuck man. That wasn't even anywhere near the point that was being made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Giggs, Butt, Phil and now Scholes. They're getting the old band back together! Any predictions on how the final few games will go? Can you imagine if they start tearing it up? The press will start clamouring for a permanent Giggs, or start touting him for other jobs, or maybe the Wales gig. Won't make Moyes look too great either. I have started to wonder about the effect on Moyes of having Giggs around on the coaching staff. I gather that the plan was for Giggs to be groomed as an eventual manager at the club, but how wise was that? Shearer's continued presence as the King-in-Waiting was quite a problem at our club, and I'm wondering if there are some parallels. I'm not suggesting that Giggs set out to undermine Moyes. But the players apparently look up to him and it can't have been easy for Moyes to completely impose himself. I get the impression that Moyes wasn't sure whether to run things his own way from the start, or tiptoe through all the existing power structures at the club, and ended up doing neither. I'd have thought a future manager would have to do the former, but it may be a few years before that's possible. Or - as with Shearer - the whole Giggs issue will need to be sorted one way or the other. Speculation, I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes also thought he was good at the game because he played it simple. Reality is he's one of the best midfielders ever and his vision and passing ability are absolutely insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Problem for Moyes from the outset was always going to be that respect issue. The players have been taught & coached by one of the best managers in the history of the game, they're automatically going to doubt a new coaches ideas if they differ. They already know the best ways to train, to go into a game etc Why would they listen to someone who's achieved far less & adapt to his ideas? Ferdinand publicly doubted them a few times. Good luck to the next guy, obviously buying half a new side might help him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 That's why they should have backed Moyes in the first place and put their money where their mouth was. As if Mourinho would have accepted that team as it for the start of the season, or Ancelotti etc. The situation as it was, going from Fergie to Moyes required a number of new players to make it work, everyone knew that and said it at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 They'll do okay in the last few games because they'll be playing for themselves and their own futures. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in permanently, I can't imagine it'll be Giggs or anyone without a proven track record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 They'll do okay in the last few games because they'll be playing for themselves and their own futures. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in permanently, I can't imagine it'll be Giggs or anyone without a proven track record. They're more than welcome to take Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Ryan Giggs has ruled himself out of the job full time as he wants to spend more time with his brothers family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Scholes will be no good in this modern football occupied by Pardew and the likes, its more about science these days..........science and throw ins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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