AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In fairness I love seeing sloppy / wilfully misleading hacks exposed or punished. They're some of my least favourite people I do too a bit, but all this banning stuff is a bit childish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The cunt will use this now as his new excuse. Media putting "impossible and unfair pressure" on him because we are "9th and beat Man United, Spurs and Chelsea don't you know!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In fairness I love seeing sloppy / wilfully misleading hacks exposed or punished. They're some of my least favourite people I do too a bit, but all this banning stuff is a bit childish. It is, but we only have so many sticks to beat journos with. If only there were more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 And I don't think he'll get the sack no matter what, given how little we have to play for now. It'll take a dressing room mutiny or some kind of rift with upper management, but form alone won't do it. Somewhere in an office in SJP there'll be a bit of paper with bullet points and something like * FINISH TOP HALF - 6th - 9th written on it, and that will be that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Did seem a strange article to put out there without some kind of high up, tip off. Shame even though deep down I knew it wasn't true, I still had a small part that believed "what if?" Now there is nothing but misery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Would be a massive twist if they sacked him after losing to Villa now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Seen it time and time again where chairman or board back manager, then they are gone after the next defeat. The so called club statement seen in that light makes different reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Still miss the old club statements. Freddy Shepherd would like to make it clear that he never said Alan Shearer would knock seven bells out of anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If there really is some possibility of Ashley selling up in the near future, that makes a sacking even less likely. Let the next chump pay him off, will be the thinking. I just can't see it unless there is some reason other than form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Be even better if they sacked him after beating villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strongbow69 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Would be a massive twist if they sacked him after losing to Villa now. better than the sixth sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hopefully they'll sack him after beating villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Did seem a strange article to put out there without some kind of high up, tip off. Shame even though deep down I knew it wasn't true, I still had a small part that believed "what if?" Now there is nothing but misery I still hope we lose. It's more than likely the fans will start chanting against Ashley and if he wants to back Pardew then it will be good to see the fat cunt getting abuse live on national television. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Would you take a Villa win if it meant Pardew was sacked? Yes 121 (87.7%) What's your problem with that? Apart from the hypothetical nature of it, it suggests a desire for Newcastle fans to lose games. Well it is a hypothetical though so there's no getting apart from it. And your conclusion you've drawn from it is ridiculous. No one wants to lose games (plural), but if the situation was that losing specifically the next game to Villa would see Pardew sacked then I would take that loss as we're safe in the league and I want Pardew out. Skeletor nicely sums up what the question really is. Your inference is flawed. If he's not sacked after we lose to villa (or win or draw) I assume you'll want us to lose the next game...and the one after that until he does go. So it would be plural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Would you take a Villa win if it meant Pardew was sacked? Yes 121 (87.7%) What's your problem with that? Apart from the hypothetical nature of it, it suggests a desire for Newcastle fans to lose games. Well it is a hypothetical though so there's no getting apart from it. And your conclusion you've drawn from it is ridiculous. No one wants to lose games (plural), but if the situation was that losing specifically the next game to Villa would see Pardew sacked then I would take that loss as we're safe in the league and I want Pardew out. Skeletor nicely sums up what the question really is. Your inference is flawed. If he's not sacked after we lose to villa (or win or draw) I assume you'll want us to lose the next game...and the one after that until he does go. So it would be plural. That's not the terms anyone was talking about though. So no, your assumption is flawed, it's not plural and you're being obtuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 And to think people on here tried to defend them through the whole KK thing, Hughton, the naming of the stadium, the awful SD branding all over the stadium, not challenging for anything in the cups or a higher place in the league than 8th., Joe kinnear, Alan Pardew, Dennis Wise, Derek Llambias... i mean come on. :lol: Where's TrolleMache Here I am! Wheeee. Might as well go through them: KK: Thought it fishy because the decision to appoint a DoF so quickly after KK arrived was just so, so bizarre- how could that ever end well? There are two ways of looking at it, one of which is that they shouldn't have hired a DoF, the other that hiring KK knowing a DoF was in the pipeline was a horrendous error. Either way, car crash. Find it hard to understand anyone's motivation as it just looks like rank stupidity. Hughton: Had loads of sympathy for him but, as I tend to do with new managers, got behind Pardew pretty sharpish and gave the club the benefit of the doubt. Stadium name: extremely sad to see the stadium renamed. Personally emailed the CEO of Wonga masquerading as a marketing expert, to suggest he renamed it St James' Park, about 2 days before he did so. In his reply he said my suggestion had been 'eerily interesting'. True story. Branding: Much less fussed about that, ugly though it is... big question is are we getting anything out of it? I've heard mixed accounts on that one. Cups: Livid. Why rest players v Cardiff for f***'s sake, given where we are in the league. Completely nonsensical. Higher than 8th: Realistically going to be hard to get higher than that on a consistent basis, even if we chuck in squillions and hire a genius manager. For now I'm happy as long as the team improves, and worried in case it doesn't, but don't think it'll make a vast difference in terms of league placing. JFK: Mental Pardew: Average Wise: See 'Keegan' Llambias: No strong feelings Pretty much smoothed over a really bad piece of nufc history, they also fucked Alan Shearer about and didnt even have the decency to call him up to say he wasn't getting the job. And remember the line from Llambias "you dont know how nasty we can be". Why do people gve them their hard earned cash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It really is a simple concept to understand. If we lose to Villa though, because of Pardew, then I imagine the margin in the poll would be even greater if the question was asked again. That is not the same as saying, now, "would you lose the next 2 games if it meant Pardew was sacked." I would mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Stadium name: extremely sad to see the stadium renamed. Personally emailed the CEO of Wonga masquerading as a marketing expert, to suggest he renamed it St James' Park, about 2 days before he did so. In his reply he said my suggestion had been 'eerily interesting'. True story. fuck me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 And to think people on here tried to defend them through the whole KK thing, Hughton, the naming of the stadium, the awful SD branding all over the stadium, not challenging for anything in the cups or a higher place in the league than 8th., Joe kinnear, Alan Pardew, Dennis Wise, Derek Llambias... i mean come on. :lol: Where's TrolleMache Here I am! Wheeee. Might as well go through them: KK: Thought it fishy because the decision to appoint a DoF so quickly after KK arrived was just so, so bizarre- how could that ever end well? There are two ways of looking at it, one of which is that they shouldn't have hired a DoF, the other that hiring KK knowing a DoF was in the pipeline was a horrendous error. Either way, car crash. Find it hard to understand anyone's motivation as it just looks like rank stupidity. Hughton: Had loads of sympathy for him but, as I tend to do with new managers, got behind Pardew pretty sharpish and gave the club the benefit of the doubt. Stadium name: extremely sad to see the stadium renamed. Personally emailed the CEO of Wonga masquerading as a marketing expert, to suggest he renamed it St James' Park, about 2 days before he did so. In his reply he said my suggestion had been 'eerily interesting'. True story. Branding: Much less fussed about that, ugly though it is... big question is are we getting anything out of it? I've heard mixed accounts on that one. Cups: Livid. Why rest players v Cardiff for fuck's sake, given where we are in the league. Completely nonsensical. Higher than 8th: Realistically going to be hard to get higher than that on a consistent basis, even if we chuck in squillions and hire a genius manager. For now I'm happy as long as the team improves, and worried in case it doesn't, but don't think it'll make a vast difference in terms of league placing. JFK: Mental Pardew: Average Wise: See 'Keegan' Llambias: No strong feelings The bit about the stadium name and you e-mail is interesting indeed. In my opinion anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Stadium name: extremely sad to see the stadium renamed. Personally emailed the CEO of Wonga masquerading as a marketing expert, to suggest he renamed it St James' Park, about 2 days before he did so. In his reply he said my suggestion had been 'eerily interesting'. True story. fuck me Fuck right off with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Rob Lee recently said on the True Faith podcast that he was praying for us to lose the derby because he knew Gullit would go. This moral high ground stuff of "you should never want your own team to lose" is canny pathetic really. Here in the real world, things aren't as black and white as all that. I want Newcastle to win more than they lose and that involves getting rid of Alan Pardew as soon as possible. Quite funny watching Happy Face backpedal furiously about the man whose praises he has sung almost endlessly despite absolutely hating him (honest Guv!). There's no back pedalling involved. I've always said the bloke's a shitehouse. Find the nicest thing I've said about him.... ever. It won't be particularly positive. Wanting my team to win games is taking the moral high ground now? I'm supposed to be the uber fan while others bang on about the greater good of the club as if I don't realise the untold benefits of this hypothetical dream scenario. Talking about the "real world" after that seems strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Question to ask is, what is in it for Pardew to hang around? Many journalists consider him a good manager, has done a "good job" at NUFC, other fans I talk to seem to think he is doing a good job...The job at nufc is a ballache, players get sold, under investment, told he cant go for cups, cant chase a european spot. So whats in it for Pardew, why not walk away and find a job where he doesn't have such tight restrictions placed upon him and the team. Why not find a team that wants to improve. What does Alan pardew get for hanging around in a dead end job?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 some money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Question to ask is, what is in it for Pardew to hang around? Many journalists consider him a good manager, has done a "good job" at NUFC, other fans I talk to seem to think he is doing a good job...The job at nufc is a ballache, players get sold, under investment, told he cant go for cups, cant chase a european spot. So whats in it for Pardew, why not walk away and find a job where he doesn't have such tight restrictions placed upon him and the team. Why not find a team that wants to improve. What does Alan pardew get for hanging around in a dead end job?? Knowing he has to REALLY fuck up to get the boot. With our 'ambition' he has more job security than practically every other manager in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Question to ask is, what is in it for Pardew to hang around? Many journalists consider him a good manager, has done a "good job" at NUFC, other fans I talk to seem to think he is doing a good job...The job at nufc is a ballache, players get sold, under investment, told he cant go for cups, cant chase a european spot. So whats in it for Pardew, why not walk away and find a job where he doesn't have such tight restrictions placed upon him and the team. Why not find a team that wants to improve. What does Alan pardew get for hanging around in a dead end job?? He gets a cut of the transfer (out) fee. Performance related pay lets call it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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