Guest Roger Kint Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It's really annoying me that only now are the press giving Pardew any kind of abuse, while for that last few years, some of the things that have come out of his mouth have been just as "shaming to Sir Bobby's memory" What was shaming to Sir Bobby was the abuse he got at the Wolves game by the "fans". On a roll slagging off our fans arent you..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It's really annoying me that only now are the press giving Pardew any kind of abuse, while for that last few years, some of the things that have come out of his mouth have been just as "shaming to Sir Bobby's memory" What was shaming to Sir Bobby was the abuse he got at the Wolves game by the "fans". On a roll slagging off our fans arent you..... Ive got wise, Hes a Mackem in Disguise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 f***ing hell... just did a quick google for examples of other fines for out-of-the-ordinary misdemeanours and found that when Mourinho poked Vilanova in the eye he was fined... 600 Euros. Ooof Doesn't count on here because he's one of the best managers in the world, it happened in another country and it was assault on a coach and not a player. Brett acting as if these things aren't factors. Well at least you didn't bold the first part which people reckons makes a difference, if you're shit, the headbutt is worth sacking, if you're world class, it's not sack worthy For the other two, of course they are factors however there's not a zero game ban to a sacking here between the two incidents, or even at least a 10 plus stadium ban. Yeah I think a 10 game stadium ban would be a little over the top. As for the first bit it depends if the club feel he's worth keeping on because of the negative press he brings with his behavior, a world class manager will obviously get a lot of leeway in that regard. Fergie having bust ups with his players as an example. Not that it would make the offence any less ridiculous and the FA shouldn't take that into regard at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I just want Pardew out of the club, he has now taken us to Joe Kinnear levels of embarrassment with his antics. I say bring in Michael Laudrup and bring back some dignity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It's really annoying me that only now are the press giving Pardew any kind of abuse, while for that last few years, some of the things that have come out of his mouth have been just as "shaming to Sir Bobby's memory" What was shaming to Sir Bobby was the abuse he got at the Wolves game by the "fans". On a roll slagging off our fans arent you..... Ive got wise, Hes a Mackem in Disguise. Yawn. At the Wolves game people were going nuts. Bobby was a "senile old c**t" etc etc. My memory is pretty good ..... obviously yours isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It's really annoying me that only now are the press giving Pardew any kind of abuse, while for that last few years, some of the things that have come out of his mouth have been just as "shaming to Sir Bobby's memory" What was shaming to Sir Bobby was the abuse he got at the Wolves game by the "fans". On a roll slagging off our fans arent you..... Ive got wise, Hes a Mackem in Disguise. Yawn. At the Wolves game people were going nuts. Bobby was a "senile old c**t" etc etc. My memory is pretty good ..... obviously yours isn't. I dont remember that like, i remember the stadium emptying rather quickly. But i dont remember abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It's really annoying me that only now are the press giving Pardew any kind of abuse, while for that last few years, some of the things that have come out of his mouth have been just as "shaming to Sir Bobby's memory" What was shaming to Sir Bobby was the abuse he got at the Wolves game by the "fans". On a roll slagging off our fans arent you..... Ive got wise, Hes a Mackem in Disguise. Yawn. At the Wolves game people were going nuts. Bobby was a "senile old c**t" etc etc. My memory is pretty good ..... obviously yours isn't. I dont remember that like, i remember the stadium emptying rather quickly. But i dont remember abuse. I don't remember chants of abuse, more random outbursts being yelled at him like you get at most games when things turn sour. Then obviously moaning amongst yourselves on way out about how he's gone senile and needs sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It's a mackem myth that there were chants of abuse etc. Absolute load of bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hasn't someone just said they heard them? Any reason it would be made up? Don't find it unbelievable that some fans could turn on the manager TBH, no matter who he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Chants of abuse at Bobby what absolute rubbish. There were just moans/groans etc at the players and management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 No chants of abuse where I was. As has been said above, the stadium just emptied quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hasn't someone just said they heard them? Any reason it would be made up? Don't find it unbelievable that some fans could turn on the manager TBH, no matter who he was. Depends on who you want to believe Ian. I was there and heard no chants of abuse at all. There was frustration and anger, but no collective chants of abuse towards him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I was there and there was certainly no chanting. 2 or 3 individuals shouting that he'd lost it but hardly a chant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I was there and there was certainly no chanting. 2 or 3 individuals shouting that he'd lost it but hardly a chant. Exactly the same as me. Just few people around me shouting directly at him. You would have had pockets of them idiots scattered about. Certainly no chanting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Basically pretty much what is now with Ben Arfa/Pardew, no chanting against them but you get certain people hurling the abuse towards them when things aren't going well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I was there and there was certainly no chanting. 2 or 3 individuals shouting that he'd lost it but hardly a chant. Exactly the same as me. Just few people around me shouting directly at him. You would have had pockets of them idiots scattered about. Certainly no chanting. even then saying directly at him, that was from the gallowgate middle tier so I'm not sure he'd have heard, nor if they'd have shouted had he been 10ft away. sometimes people have big gobs when the target can't hear!. can't say they were idiots for it, it's what I was thinking. (him being past it, not the abuse) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I was there and there was certainly no chanting. 2 or 3 individuals shouting that he'd lost it but hardly a chant. Exactly the same as me. Just few people around me shouting directly at him. You would have had pockets of them idiots scattered about. Certainly no chanting. even then saying directly at him, that was from the gallowgate middle tier so I'm not sure he'd have heard, nor if they'd have shouted had he been 10ft away. sometimes people have big gobs when the target can't hear!. can't say they were idiots for it, it's what I was thinking. (him being past it, not the abuse) Yeah when i said directly don't mean he could actually hear what was being yelled. I wanted Robson sacked as well, the vast majority did at the time but when i say it's idiots i mean the ones going further than just shouting 'fuck off, you're shit' etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 While I was seriously pissed at the atmosphere and so many bogging off at the end, I can't say there was any over the top grief coming from around me either (east stand right upper). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I was there and there was certainly no chanting. 2 or 3 individuals shouting that he'd lost it but hardly a chant. Exactly the same as me. Just few people around me shouting directly at him. You would have had pockets of them idiots scattered about. Certainly no chanting. even then saying directly at him, that was from the gallowgate middle tier so I'm not sure he'd have heard, nor if they'd have shouted had he been 10ft away. sometimes people have big gobs when the target can't hear!. can't say they were idiots for it, it's what I was thinking. (him being past it, not the abuse) Yeah when i said directly don't mean he could actually hear what was being yelled. I wanted Robson sacked as well, the vast majority did at the time but when i say it's idiots i mean the ones going further than just shouting 'f*** off, you're s***' etc. You wanted Robson sacked for finishing 5th but you are more then happy to tell everyone else how we should all be on board with Pardew and Ashley??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I was there and there was certainly no chanting. 2 or 3 individuals shouting that he'd lost it but hardly a chant. Exactly the same as me. Just few people around me shouting directly at him. You would have had pockets of them idiots scattered about. Certainly no chanting. even then saying directly at him, that was from the gallowgate middle tier so I'm not sure he'd have heard, nor if they'd have shouted had he been 10ft away. sometimes people have big gobs when the target can't hear!. can't say they were idiots for it, it's what I was thinking. (him being past it, not the abuse) Yeah when i said directly don't mean he could actually hear what was being yelled. I wanted Robson sacked as well, the vast majority did at the time but when i say it's idiots i mean the ones going further than just shouting 'f*** off, you're s***' etc. not at all sure the majority wanted him sacked or pushed upstairs or whatever. I think he had the majority behind him even on the day he got the boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 That Wolves game saw many pissed off at the club as a whole, was mainly to do with the Marseille game before hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You wanted Robson sacked for finishing 5th but you are more then happy to tell everyone else how we should all be on board with Pardew and Ashley??? Why do you make stuff up like this? Fail to see the need for it gimp. I've never hid away on this board for my hatred for Ashley, made it very clear he's the one i have my major problems with before anyone else. Secondly i've never told anyone they should be on board with Pardew. Made it quite clear i understand why people are frustrated but think they can go over the top with certain reactions. And it's appointments after sacking like Robson to Souness and Hughton to Pardew that have literally worn my faith so thin in a decent appointment being made. I've mentioned loads of managers on here i'd take over Pardew. I would have taken Solskjaer/Mcgath both of which other clubs have appointed recently, they might not work out but at least they are trying something new. I just don't feel we would even consider an appointment like that and i do struggle to understand why many on here can't accept i just don't trust Ashley with anymore managerial appointments. I’ve wanted so many managers sacked in recent times only to be even more disappointed by their successor and when Pardew arrived I told myself just to back him from the start and hope for the best. So now that we are 8th in league and I can’t imagine any upgrade on Pardew arriving, I’m not crying out for a sacking for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I shouldn't laugh given my typo's but Mcgath has made me giggle. could maybe bring in franz buckybauer and uli haggis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I shouldn't laugh given my typo's but Mcgath has made me giggle. could maybe bring in franz buckybauer and uli haggis. When you're flying through on a rant, words/names are muddled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You wanted Robson sacked for finishing 5th but you are more then happy to tell everyone else how we should all be on board with Pardew and Ashley??? Why do you make stuff up like this? Fail to see the need for it gimp. I've never hid away on this board for my hatred for Ashley, made it very clear he's the one i have my major problems with before anyone else. Secondly i've never told anyone they should be on board with Pardew. Made it quite clear i understand why people are frustrated but think they can go over the top with certain reactions. And it's appointments after sacking like Robson to Souness and Hughton to Pardew that have literally worn my faith so thin in a decent appointment being made. I've mentioned loads of managers on here i'd take over Pardew. I would have taken Solskjaer/Mcgath both of which other clubs have appointed recently, they might not work out but at least they are trying something new. I just don't feel we would even consider an appointment like that and i do struggle to understand why many on here can't accept i just don't trust Ashley with anymore managerial appointments. I’ve wanted so many managers sacked in recent times only to be even more disappointed by their successor and when Pardew arrived I told myself just to back him from the start and hope for the best. So now that we are 8th in league and I can’t imagine any upgrade on Pardew arriving, I’m not crying out for a sacking for once. Sorry Brett, I couldn't resist. I knew you'd latch on to it. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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