Interpolic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think Pardew talking about our players leaving adds fuel to the fire personally, in a similar way to when other managers talk about players that aren't their own then the increased speculation is likely to unsettle them. Some clubs complain to the authorities about their players being tapped up in these circumstances but those clubs don't usually want to sell their best players and don't have their manager playing head salesman in the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pardew was begging them to make a bid early to leave time to buy a replacement so they wouldn't have to knock it back. He literally said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 He has very little say on players getting sold tbh, that will have been Ashley, Joe and Cabaye wanting to leave as I can't imagine Pardew would want his best player to leave no matter the cost. He is to blame however for whoring him about in the media and constantly talking about potential bids for our players, added to the inept football at times and not pushing to get into europe probably makes players want to leave at some point. That's as much Pardew as it is Ashley because the managers preferred style of play and our transfer strategy are not very well aligned. I don't blame Cabaye and wish him luck personally, he deserves to be at a club challenging for things and kind of glad he did not go to a club in this country. You can also see why he would be happy to go back to the country he is from and of course Paris which pisses on Newcastle for things to do. I just hope we can now move on and invest in player or two to replace him. Can we splash 10-12 million on a attacking midfielder and another 5 on a central midfielder / winger to at least give us attacking capabilities. If that happened then I would be ok with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pardew was begging them to make a bid early to leave time to buy a replacement so they wouldn't have to knock it back. He literally said that. He did say it, tbf to him he's right. Well if we actually replace Cabaye that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Isn't the thing to keeping players like Cabaye, by showing the ambition to make it into the Champions League. Showing them the club is going places. Something we most definitely do not do. You can hardly blame players for wanting to play in the top competition, unfortunately to do that they have to leave us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Have sympathy with Pardew on this, he clearly has no say on the majority of transfers and has said the right things in the press for once. Realistically all of our players are for sale at all times, it's just the cunty Ashley way. At least there was a vaguely strong comment on us needing a replacement in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Have sympathy with Pardew on this, he clearly has no say on the majority of transfers and has said the right things in the press for once. Realistically all of our players are for sale at all times, it's just the cunty Ashley way. At least there was a vaguely strong comment on us needing a replacement in. Would you let him after he picked Obertan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Have sympathy with Pardew on this, he clearly has no say on the majority of transfers and has said the right things in the press for once. Realistically all of our players are for sale at all times, it's just the cunty Ashley way. At least there was a vaguely strong comment on us needing a replacement in. Absolutely no sympathy for this fraudulent hack whatsoever. For anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't have sympathy for him, but it's not his fault either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Agreed. Does anyone get the feeling he's the most helpless man in football? Stuck in a job in which he has very limited power, is essentially a mouthpiece for a corrupt regime who doesn't give a shit about him or the club he 'manages,' and still cannot walk away as it won't get better than this for him? Ever? Must be pretty shitty being him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It's funny how most of us think this guy is such a bellend, yet we hang on every word he says at these press conferences. It's a job in itself to ensure what you say can't be interpreted in a negative way, they obviously have to be heavily coached by the press officers, I would be shite at it, babble on way too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I've just seen this utter bastard on the news and he was acting as if he'd just won the Euro Lottery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Agreed. Does anyone get the feeling he's the most helpless man in football? Stuck in a job in which he has very limited power, is essentially a mouthpiece for a corrupt regime who doesn't give a shit about him or the club he 'manages,' and still cannot walk away as it won't get better than this for him? Ever? Must be pretty shitty being him. there's that side of it but there's also the fact he's the manager of a premier league club with some very talented players at his disposal and overall doing a fairly good job so can't be all bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I've just seen this utter bastard on the news and he was acting as if he'd just won the Euro Lottery. Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I've just seen this utter b****** on the news and he was acting as if he'd just won the Euro Lottery. This should be interesting. So, what really happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It's funny how most of us think this guy is such a bellend, yet we hang on every word he says at these press conferences. It's a job in itself to ensure what you say can't be interpreted in a negative way, they obviously have to be heavily coached by the press officers, I would be shite at it, babble on way too much. part of the pro license they have to get is media training. Listening to the press pass on talksport sunday and John Cross of the Mirror was talking a bit about it as he'd done that bit of it recently with Paul Ince on it and they do try to think of whatever scenario and how to answer it apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Isn't the thing to keeping players like Cabaye, by showing the ambition to make it into the Champions League. Showing them the club is going places. Something we most definitely do not do. You can hardly blame players for wanting to play in the top competition, unfortunately to do that they have to leave us. Aye I don't blame Cabaye one bit & I'm not shocked. The problem is the club has no ambition. None whatsoever. It's even in the mission statement that it's their intention to buy cheap young players approaching their prime & sell them when they peak. Till Ashley fucks off nothing changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Isn't the thing to keeping players like Cabaye, by showing the ambition to make it into the Champions League. Showing them the club is going places. Something we most definitely do not do. You can hardly blame players for wanting to play in the top competition, unfortunately to do that they have to leave us. Aye I don't blame Cabaye one bit & I'm not shocked. The problem is the club has no ambition. None whatsoever. It's even in the mission statement that it's their intention to buy cheap young players approaching their prime & sell them when they peak. Till Ashley fucks off nothing changes. Aye, we're going to be on this horrendous carousel of shit and disappointment until he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It's funny how most of us think this guy is such a bellend, yet we hang on every word he says at these press conferences. It's a job in itself to ensure what you say can't be interpreted in a negative way, they obviously have to be heavily coached by the press officers, I would be s**** at it, babble on way too much. part of the pro license they have to get is media training. Listening to the press pass on talksport sunday and John Cross of the Mirror was talking a bit about it as he'd done that bit of it recently with Paul Ince on it and they do try to think of whatever scenario and how to answer it apparently. I think Hughton must have gotten an A+ for that part of the course, don't remember him saying anything of any worth in any interview he did as NUFC boss and I guess that's what they are aiming for. While JFK in the unlikely event of him actually doing the course would have done well to scrape an F. Pardew's probably somewhere in the middle as a C, could do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Until he leaves, if he's replaced by someone much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Isn't the thing to keeping players like Cabaye, by showing the ambition to make it into the Champions League. Showing them the club is going places. Something we most definitely do not do. You can hardly blame players for wanting to play in the top competition, unfortunately to do that they have to leave us. Aye I don't blame Cabaye one bit & I'm not shocked. The problem is the club has no ambition. None whatsoever. It's even in the mission statement that it's their intention to buy cheap young players approaching their prime & sell them when they peak. Till Ashley f***s off nothing changes. Aye, we're going to be on this horrendous carousel of s*** and disappointment until he leaves. Pretty much yeh. I can't be sure we're even going to get the peaks after last years nightmare either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Isn't the thing to keeping players like Cabaye, by showing the ambition to make it into the Champions League. Showing them the club is going places. Something we most definitely do not do. You can hardly blame players for wanting to play in the top competition, unfortunately to do that they have to leave us. Aye I don't blame Cabaye one bit & I'm not shocked. The problem is the club has no ambition. None whatsoever. It's even in the mission statement that it's their intention to buy cheap young players approaching their prime & sell them when they peak. Till Ashley f***s off nothing changes. I don't actually mind that philosophy as long as it's a building block to something more ambitious. Providing the financial foundations to build up your squad until you get to a position where there are no other clubs in a stronger place to take your prized assets away from you. But clearly that's not the intent here, the summit has been set at top 10, anything beyond that is a bonus and will never become a new target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We invite the bids - no doubt about it. Delegations don't just turn up, they're invited. I'm fairly sure part of his job is to talk the players up - just like Llambias did a couple of year back with Tiote. I think Cabaye wanted to go - which is fair enough - but I don't think we put any effort in at all to stop him going. Isn't the thing to keeping players like Cabaye, by showing the ambition to make it into the Champions League. Showing them the club is going places. Something we most definitely do not do. You can hardly blame players for wanting to play in the top competition, unfortunately to do that they have to leave us. Aye I don't blame Cabaye one bit & I'm not shocked. The problem is the club has no ambition. None whatsoever. It's even in the mission statement that it's their intention to buy cheap young players approaching their prime & sell them when they peak. Till Ashley f***s off nothing changes. Aye, we're going to be on this horrendous carousel of s*** and disappointment until he leaves. Pretty much yeh. I can't be sure we're even going to get the peaks after last years nightmare either. As much as it pains me to say it but i actually think we might do quite well with Pardew as manager with a owner who spends. As long as they dont let Pardew pick the buys like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I've just seen this utter b****** on the news and he was acting as if he'd just won the Euro Lottery. Was it a poster on here who suggested AP got an incentive from transfer profit - if so he may have made a canny bit of cash from Yohan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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