nufcjmc Posted Tuesday at 21:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:01 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: Really glad they didn't get £100 million for Bruno. Think it would have benefitted their rebuild massively. Knowing our luck the crazy fucks will not give up and offer even more money! Still think and froggy will know better than me players being released under the older bigger contracts and players who the manager know don't fit the system or he doesn't want to sell and replenish the coffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Tuesday at 21:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:06 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Froggy said: Has mentioned about how the cuts are brutal but otherwise has had no reason to call INEOS out so far. He's apparently quite close with upper management and is fully backed for the rebuild. Thanks. It wasn't a loaded question. I think he did say that it wasn't ideal to be appointed when he was. Which was surely true and I suppose as much as you could say, a bit like Howe appearing to be unhappy with the changes last summer, but also stopping short of saying that as well. At least, how that was reported on with both of those things, so pinch of salt and all that. Just wondered how much say you think he has, because I've no idea how it works behind the scenes with the current set up. Edited Tuesday at 21:07 by Abacus "with" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Tuesday at 21:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:09 3 minutes ago, Checko said: So if Bruno F stays, what's the set up of that front three? Cunha Bruno F Mbeumo Something like that? Or does Bruno F drop into one of the CM roles with Cunha on the left and a specialist CF? Bruno dropping into CM I would say. That's normally a problem as there was nobody else really creating in the #10 roles, but Cunha and Mbeumo would fix that. We're definitely after a striker as well. There's been a lot of noise about making a move for Gyokeres but it's dependant on sales and Arsenal are also interested. The Garnacho sale is huge. If big money comes in for him it's a huge PSR boon Team at the minute is likely: Onana Mazraoui De Ligt Yoro Amad Fernandes Ugarte Dorgu Cunha Mount (Mbeumo instead if it happens) Hojlund ST next priority. Hojlund out on loan to Inter with an obligation to buy and Zirkzee to stay as a #9/#10 rotation option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Tuesday at 21:12 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:12 3 minutes ago, Abacus said: Thanks. It wasn't a loaded question. I think he did say that it wasn't ideal to be appointed when he was. Which was surely true and I suppose as much as you could say, a bit like Howe appearing to be unhappy with the changes last summer, but also stopping short of saying that as well. At least, how that was reported on with both of those things, so pinch of salt and all that. Just wondered how much say you think he has, because I've no idea how it works behind the scenes with the current set up. I'd say Wilcox and Berrada find the players and Amorim signs them off. Ratcliffe already said Amorim has his say with signings. Mind you, I don't think it's any coincidence that Mbeumo and Cunha are versatile players capable of playing in any system though. If it doesn't work out for Amorim, those two can play in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1 etc. They're smart buys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted Tuesday at 21:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:20 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: Schar was always class. That waste of air Bruce not seeing it doesn’t change that. Shelvey was a lazy twat who Eddie binned first real opportunity be had to do so. Quite right on Schar but he went from an eye on the exit door to playing out of his skin in a matter of weeks. Yes Eddie binned Shelvey but he got a decent tune out of him whilst he was here. With that away game at Leeds being a key early victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Tuesday at 21:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:24 22 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Knowing our luck the crazy fucks will not give up and offer even more money! Still think and froggy will know better than me players being released under the older bigger contracts and players who the manager know don't fit the system or he doesn't want to sell and replenish the coffers. Think he turned them down as his family wasn't keen, so they won't keep trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Tuesday at 21:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:25 3 minutes ago, Froggy said: I'd say Wilcox and Berrada find the players and Amorim signs them off. Ratcliffe already said Amorim has his say with signings. Mind you, I don't think it's any coincidence that Mbeumo and Cunha are versatile players capable of playing in any system though. If it doesn't work out for Amorim, those two can play in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1 etc. They're smart buys. Fair point about the versatility. I think they're both excellent players and can't deny I'd have been happy with either plus both could fit into a lot of systems. Last one, before I get back to fretting about my own team, honestly how long do you reckon Amorim gets next season if things don't improve a lot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Tuesday at 21:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:31 4 minutes ago, Abacus said: Last one, before I get back to fretting about my own team, honestly how long do you reckon Amorim gets next season if things don't improve a lot? What's a lot to you? If we keep the same league form last this season, then he's gone by October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Tuesday at 21:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:38 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Froggy said: What's a lot to you? If we keep the same league form last this season, then he's gone by October. Was kind of thinking you'd need to be loitering around the top 8 or so by then. Long summer ahead as well so maybe too early to say. Don't know what your thoughts are or whether that'll be enough. Edit, as a minimum or whether that's a fast enough improvement, no idea what the expectations are. Edited Tuesday at 21:41 by Abacus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Tuesday at 21:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:41 2 minutes ago, Abacus said: Was kind of thinking you'd need to be loitering around the top 8 or so by then. Long summer ahead as well so maybe too early to say. Don't know what your thoughts are or whether that'll be enough. Top 8 is definitely enough. Just need to see improvement now. We're an easy fanbase to keep on your side. Just don't lose every other game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted Tuesday at 22:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:34 Or be David Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 05:49 Share Posted yesterday at 05:49 Wow. PSR just doesn't apply to Man United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted yesterday at 06:04 Share Posted yesterday at 06:04 14 minutes ago, Froggy said: Wow. PSR just doesn't apply to Man United. Pfft..........we gave Target £500k per week and a Caribbean island as a signing on fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 06:09 Share Posted yesterday at 06:09 Oof. With Cunhas walking and Mbeumos head scratching this could be a bad deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted yesterday at 06:12 Share Posted yesterday at 06:12 Think yous should step aside. Howe will sort out that side of his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 06:24 Share Posted yesterday at 06:24 33 minutes ago, Froggy said: Wow. PSR just doesn't apply to Man United. I see Man Utd fans are having a melt down because they're being called out for throwing over the top salaries at players like they have consistently done over the last decade, which has led to them being saddled with players they can't shift. Can't even be honest about the way their club operates, and just own it. There's a reason Rashford, Sancho and Antony will soon be back at the club, and hopefully you get stuck with the lot of them. It's also why Mainoo has the unmitigated gall to be demanding £180,000 a week, because he knows the score. Stop with the crying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 06:26 Share Posted yesterday at 06:26 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: I see Man Utd fans are having a melt down because they're being called out for throwing over the top salaries at players like they have consistently done over the last decade, which has led to them being saddled with players they can't shift. Can't even be honest about the way their club operates, and just own it. There's a reason Rashford, Sancho and Antony will soon be back at the club, and hopefully you get stuck with the lot of them. It's also why Mainoo has the unmitigated gall to be demanding £180,000 a week, because he knows the score. Stop with the crying. Patrick Dorgu has a terrible agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 06:30 Share Posted yesterday at 06:30 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: I see Man Utd fans are having a melt down because they're being called out for throwing over the top salaries at players like they have consistently done over the last decade, which has led to them being saddled with players they can't shift. Can't even be honest about the way their club operates, and just own it. There's a reason Rashford, Sancho and Antony will soon be back at the club, and hopefully you get stuck with the lot of them. It's also why Mainoo has the unmitigated gall to be demanding £180,000 a week, because he knows the score. Stop with the crying. Yeah most of those are wrong, and I'm fairly sure that image is pulled from The Sun of all places. This is point we're trying to make. Opposition fans are pulling stats from the most bullshit of sources and try and pass it off as fact. You've just done the same thing and reinforced the point. You and many others on here (not everyone though to be fair) are suggesting that the only way Mbeumo/Cunha or any other player could possibly pick Man United over Newcastle is the wages. It's just not true though is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 06:32 Share Posted yesterday at 06:32 Bruno Fernandes rejecting Saudi Arabia is good news – and not just for Manchester United - The Athletic https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6399684/2025/06/04/bruno-fernandes-rejected-al-hilal-why-it-should-be-celebrated/ Great article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted yesterday at 06:33 Share Posted yesterday at 06:33 There's barely any difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted yesterday at 06:33 Share Posted yesterday at 06:33 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: Yeah most of those are wrong, and I'm fairly sure that image is pulled from The Sun of all places. This is point we're trying to make. Opposition fans are pulling stats from the most bullshit of sources and try and pass it off as fact. You've just done the same thing and reinforced the point. You and many others on here (not everyone though to be fair) are suggesting that the only way Mbeumo/Cunha or any other player could possibly pick Man United over Newcastle is the wages. It's just not true though is it? And again, like I said before, you dont have exact info about wages either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 06:35 Share Posted yesterday at 06:35 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: There's barely any difference That was surprisingly easy to bait someone into using Capology. Didn't expect it to be you. £150,000 on Lloyd Kelly man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 06:36 Share Posted yesterday at 06:36 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: Yeah most of those are wrong, and I'm fairly sure that image is pulled from The Sun of all places. This is point we're trying to make. Opposition fans are pulling stats from the most bullshit of sources and try and pass it off as fact. You've just done the same thing and reinforced the point. You and many others on here (not everyone though to be fair) are suggesting that the only way Mbeumo/Cunha or any other player could possibly pick Man United over Newcastle is the wages. It's just not true though is it? Go and find the right ones and post them and I guarantee my point will still stand. I doubt they are that far off. Honestly, this is just pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 06:37 Share Posted yesterday at 06:37 Newcastle offered a backup defender wages that would have made him Man United's 6th highest paid player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 06:38 Share Posted yesterday at 06:38 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: There's barely any difference Honestly man, they're so insufferable. They really think these huge salaries have nothing to do with why players go there. It's all down to "aura", "pull" and "heritage". Absolutely shameless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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