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tgarve

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It’s an insane narrative to start judging teams off pre season 

 

a) if your going out of your way to watch pre season games on tv your a weirdo. Fair enough if just to fill a spot and not take seriously 

 

b) if you could read anything off them you would have Chelsea in the top 4 last season. Read into that how much they are a reflection of real life games …

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KaKa

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3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Feel free to point out where I said that for the preseason games we've won. :lol:

 

Between ourselves and Liverpool there were probably 5 or 6 players who actually start games. Just a fitness exercise. 

 

We've a glorified friendly next Saturday for the first teamers. 

 

Not going to lie, I'm quite surprised by your team at the moment.

 

Been linked with lots of players but just Yoro has come in so far with Zirkzee. Neither of who are likely to hit the ground running early on. With Yoro being out and Zirkzee having got the extra break.

 

Looking a lot like last season's lineup still. A bad start could lead to all sorts of drama.

 

And Gareth will be waiting ...

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Froggy

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6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Looking a lot like last season's lineup still.

 

Without the injuries it's completely different mind. Not sure Ten Hag has ever been able to select his first choice eleven. 

 

Could be an interesting season. Having Zirkzee as a backup striker is certainly much better than having an injured Martial though. :lol:

 

 

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KaKa

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8 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Without the injuries it's completely different mind. Not sure Ten Hag has ever been able to select his first choice eleven. 

 

Could be an interesting season. Having Zirkzee as a backup striker is certainly much better than having an injured Martial though. :lol:

 

 

 

Will the Euros/Copa players be able to come straight back in?

 

If not, the team is going to be looking crazy the first few games.

 

The Ugarte and DeLigt deals have been so slow.

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Froggy

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Just now, KaKa said:

The Ugarte and DeLigt deals have been so slow.

 

Ugarte was waiting on the Joao Neves deal completing. I would expect us to push hard for that over the next week. 

 

McTominay and Wan Bissaka need to be sold for De Ligt and Mazraoui to come in. 

 

All personal terms already agreed with all the players. I do think they'll all arrive before the end of August. 

 

Ugarte is essential though. 

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1 minute ago, Big River said:

was Ugarte the one stinking up the midfield for PSG when we battered them?

yep. We used him as the trigger for our press. Absolutely awful on the ball.

 

 

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KaKa

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5 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Ugarte was waiting on the Joao Neves deal completing. I would expect us to push hard for that over the next week. 

 

McTominay and Wan Bissaka need to be sold for De Ligt and Mazraoui to come in. 

 

All personal terms already agreed with all the players. I do think they'll all arrive before the end of August. 

 

Ugarte is essential though. 

 

Yeah, agree on Ugarte. I like him.

 

Although, it will depend on who is in midfield with him, and how that is balanced.

 

Cassemiro was looking wild yesterday. Got sent flying by Carvalho.

 

 

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Froggy

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

Should be interesting. I guess that should work.

 

Are you not still looking at Rabiot then?

 

Surprisingly I haven't heard anything about us going for him this summer. We were very interested in him before and held talks with him, but they must not have went very well. 

 

Ugarte would be enough in midfield this season though. Ugarte, Casemiro, Fernandes, Mainoo, Mount, Eriksen and Collyer would be more than enough to see us through. I'd expect Casemiro and Eriksen then to both leave next summer at the latest, and another midfield signing to be made. 

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KaKa

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23 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Surprisingly I haven't heard anything about us going for him this summer. We were very interested in him before and held talks with him, but they must not have went very well. 

 

Ugarte would be enough in midfield this season though. Ugarte, Casemiro, Fernandes, Mainoo, Mount, Eriksen and Collyer would be more than enough to see us through. I'd expect Casemiro and Eriksen then to both leave next summer at the latest, and another midfield signing to be made. 

 

I see. Lots of responsibility on Mainoo's shoulders it looks like though. Going to be a big season for him, to see if he steps up.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

I see. Lots of responsibility on Mainoo's shoulders it looks like though. Going to be a big season for him, to see if he steps up.

 

I would say he'll be rotated a decent bit with Mount. Mount will play a lot this year IMO. 

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1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

Without the injuries it's completely different mind. Not sure Ten Hag has ever been able to select his first choice eleven. 

 

Could be an interesting season. Having Zirkzee as a backup striker is certainly much better than having an injured Martial though. :lol:

 

 

Serious question as I don't really know the answer but what in your eyes is Ten Haag first choice eleven?

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Froggy

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3 minutes ago, nufcjb said:

Serious question as I don't really know the answer but what in your eyes is Ten Haag first choice eleven?

 

This season? Probably the following at this stage:

 

Onana

Dalot

Martinez 

Yoro

Shaw

Casemiro

Mainoo

Fernandes

Rashford

Garnacho

Hojlund

 

Ugarte in for Casemiro would be huge for us. 

 

Also think he really wants Mazraoui as he doesn't trust the fitness of Shaw and Malacia is out for months still. Dalot is capable on both flanks whereas Wan Bissaka is not, so it provides more solid depth. 

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Just now, Froggy said:

 

This season? Probably the following at this stage:

 

Onana

Dalot

Martinez 

Yoro

Shaw

Casemiro

Mainoo

Fernandes

Rashford

Garnacho

Hojlund

 

Ugarte in for Casemiro would be huge for us. 

 

Also think he really wants Mazraoui as he doesn't trust the fitness of Shaw and Malacia is out for months still. Dalot is capable on both flanks whereas Wan Bissaka is not, so it provides more solid depth. 

Fair enough. So Ten Haag won't be having this lineup until atleast November (is it?) when Rasmus is back? Think you'll still do well without him and Yoro at the start. Need atleast 4 points by the end of August though or the media will be on Ten Haag's back.

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4 minutes ago, nufcjb said:

Fair enough. So Ten Haag won't be having this lineup until atleast November (is it?) when Rasmus is back? Think you'll still do well without him and Yoro at the start. Need atleast 4 points by the end of August though or the media will be on Ten Haag's back.

 

End of November when Yoro is back aye. Maguire will probably get the nod for the moment. 

 

Hojlund is a miss but no real excuses with that one now with the Zirkzee signing. 

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17 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Ugarte was waiting on the Joao Neves deal completing. I would expect us to push hard for that over the next week. 

 

McTominay and Wan Bissaka need to be sold for De Ligt and Mazraoui to come in. 

 

All personal terms already agreed with all the players. I do think they'll all arrive before the end of August. 

 

Ugarte is essential though. 


Interesting to see how two injury-prone Bayern rejects will improve the team.

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Froggy

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Just now, 54 said:

I've not really paid too much attention to them, how good are De Ligt and Mazraoui? Assuming they're half decent? 

 

There's a petition with over 70,000 signatures from Bayern fans desperate for the club to keep De Ligt as he's their best centre back. Bayern are only selling for financial reasons as he's on £265k a week and they can bring in Tah for a decent fee and half the wages. De Ligt is obviously class though and a big upgrade on everyone we have bar Martinez.

 

Mazraoui an upgrade on Wan Bissaka as he can attack and isn't as positionally weak, but his injury record is properly shocking to be fair.

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