Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mike said: I love Howe and he's improved players but that's an insane take. Edited December 28, 2024 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Howe has turned the Tyne Bridge into a through arch bridge over the River Tyne in North East England, linking Newcastle upon Tyne and Gateshead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 32 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/eddie-howe-showing-manchester-united-what-they-are-missing-kzxzrvkkr Basically arguing that Howe would be the manager to help enable their players to perform or transition, using Schar and Joelinton as examples. Wasn’t the support for Eddie Howe chiefly in the form of despicable Dan who was promptly sacked for recommending a premier league experienced manager, rather than having a list of foreigners. The dirty rat knew better. I’m cautious not to pick fault and laugh at them too much since I’m desperate for a league win at old and broken Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Amorim has took over a group of players who in the last two seasons have finished 3rd and 8th and won the FA cup and league cup. All this it's a tough job is bullshit. Howe and Emery have came in at a similar time of the season under worse circumstances and turned it round in months. If Man Utd finish below 8th it's a huge failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 31 minutes ago, The Fountain said: Amorim has took over a group of players who in the last two seasons have finished 3rd and 8th and won the FA cup and league cup. All this it's a tough job is bullshit. Howe and Emery have came in at a similar time of the season under worse circumstances and turned it round in months. If Man Utd finish below 8th it's a huge failure. Turnaround under Howe wasn’t instant either, it’s ridiculous how many people are already talking about Amorim getting sacked. Him completely dropping Rashford is a good sign that he could be the one who finally realises that wholesale changes are needed and players not trying is unacceptable. And their performances haven’t even been as bad as the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, Pata said: And their performances haven’t even been as bad as the results. You're the first person on here to say this, so fair play. Turgid against Arsenal and Wolves, and the performance against Ipswich wasn't great. Aside from that we've actually been happy with the performances, just not the results. Frailty from set pieces is something that badly needs addressed though. We concede two goals straight from corners in two consecutive games with two different keepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Why do people think dropping Rashford is some masterstroke? He's just the latest string of players that's been made a scapegoat. Zirkzee attitude and effort on the pitch looks worse than anything Rashford does. Guy scored in opening 2 Prem games under Amorim when starting, and since then, they've scored 4 in 5. I find it amazing the buy in Amorim has got from so many people because he talks well Think he has dazzled Ratcliffe in a conversation too. He's not going to be allowed to make wholesale changes, because there's a lot of money tied up in this squad, and it's a relatively new squad Take their best starting XI on paper arguably: Onana: Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez: Mazzaori, Ugarte, Mainoo, Shaw: Garnacho, Fernandes: Hojlund One player there (Shaw) taken out. Rest is new people in past 18 months or the club captain on a new mega deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, Pata said: Turnaround under Howe wasn’t instant either, it’s ridiculous how many people are already talking about Amorim getting sacked. Him completely dropping Rashford is a good sign that he could be the one who finally realises that wholesale changes are needed and players not trying is unacceptable. And their performances haven’t even been as bad as the results. I think any sacking is a while off, and obviously dependent on no turn around in form which could easily happen. But they've got an absolute idiot in charge who has no idea how to run a club. It could easily turn messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, Pata said: Turnaround under Howe wasn’t instant either, it’s ridiculous how many people are already talking about Amorim getting sacked. Him completely dropping Rashford is a good sign that he could be the one who finally realises that wholesale changes are needed and players not trying is unacceptable. And their performances haven’t even been as bad as the results. True, but we were the 4th or 5th best team from when Howe took over. Just saying that Man U finishing below 8th would constitute a failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 The man sacked his DOF after a couple of months. Not inconceivable the new manager goes the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 I've not watched them, or even heard anything from their games, but they've been fucking wank and it's embarrassing even supporting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 We are so losing Monday now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Why do people think dropping Rashford is some masterstroke? If you have to ask this, you've not been paying enough attention to have an opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 15 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Why do people think dropping Rashford is some masterstroke? He's just the latest string of players that's been made a scapegoat. He's been poor for ages outside that one season which got him the new deal but has still been a mainstay as a starter under every manager. I think it's clearly a positive sign that Amorim doesn't feel he's obliged to start him due to his mega contract and local kid status but is ready to instantly get rid of him (which won't be easy with that wage). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) He’s taken over management of a squad that was signed for millions of billions and is paid billions They’ve won 2 trophies in last 2 seasons They’re also exempt from PSR rules So he crouches on the touchline with a face like a slapped arse and says it’ll take him ages to fix them because the players are shite Bad workman blaming his tools methinks Edited December 28, 2024 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 42 minutes ago, astraguy said: We are so losing Monday now We're gonna get fucked in the eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mike said: We're gonna get fucked in the eye. If you lose to us on Monday I think serious questions need asked about Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 A grand total of 1 win in this fixture since 1972. Christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, astraguy said: We are so losing Monday now Shit happens. Good teams lose to absolute dross now and then. Just ignore and carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Pata said: And their performances haven’t even been as bad as the results. Understat's expected points has them a smidgen above us. Man U are shooting somewhere between 5 and 7 below xG depending on the model. Bournemouth are massively below, but that's what you'd expect for a team with inexpensive players. Here's hoping the reversion to the mean is not tomorrow. All I'll say is that we should be going into it with a lot of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Stottie said: Understat's expected points has them a smidgen above us. Man U are shooting somewhere between 5 and 7 below xG depending on the model. Bournemouth are massively below, but that's what you'd expect for a team with inexpensive players. Here's hoping the reversion to the mean is not tomorrow. All I'll say is that we should be going into it with a lot of confidence. When did kicking a ball into a net become algebra ? Edited December 28, 2024 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Just now, bobbydazzla said: When did blokes kicking a ball into a net become algebra ? The expected points thing was hurled in my direction every weekend under Ten Hag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: The expected points thing was hurled in my direction every weekend under Ten Hag. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again xG is for blokes who always go home alone after a night out and have a tug in their bedroom at their mams house whilst consoling themselves by thinking of all the lasses they believe they could have shagged Edited December 28, 2024 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again xG is for blokes who always go home alone after a night out and have a tug in their bedroom at their mams house whilst consoling themselves by thinking of all the lasses they believe they could have shagged That is a very specific scenario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: He’s taken over management of a squad that was signed for millions of billions and is paid billions They’ve won 2 trophies in last 2 seasons They’re also exempt from PSR rules So he crouches on the touchline with a face like a slapped arse and says it’ll take him ages to fix them because the players are shite Bad workman blaming his tools methinks Yes I've said similar earlier. Is the Man Utd squad worse than the ones Howe and Emery took over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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