Stottie Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Man U will need at least two new defensive starters next year, with no obvious leader left to marshal the defence as a whole. I think it really limits their chances of making a strong comeback next year. Vidic-level scouting coups may be required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think if they give Jones a proper run there he'll develop into a top centre-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 they're gonna have to spend some amount of money in the summer like, on top of the 65m or whatever they've already just spent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If anything, I think people are underestimating how quickly the gloss can come off a club and other better options become available. I'm not saying they won't sign people obviously, players will come if enough cash is forced into their offshore bank accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If anything, I think people are underestimating how quickly the gloss can come off a club and other better options become available. I'm not saying they won't sign people obviously, players will come if enough cash is forced into their offshore bank accounts. Exactly, Alex Ferguson is a once in a life time manager. He was a massive driving froce and there aren't manay managers in the world like him...I also feel that Man Utd are playing catch up to Chelsea and Man City now. Their squad has so many problems its unreal and i'm amazed how much Ferguson managed to get out of them at the by the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? That was down to bad management mainly. They still attracted big name players though and still won trophies just not the League. I mean how does a team like Liverpool attract say a Suarez? Money is one factor but im sure Liverpool's history is a big pulling power as would Manchester United's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? That was down to bad management mainly. They still attracted big name players though and still won trophies just not the League. I mean how does a team like Liverpool attract say a Suarez? Money is one factor but im sure Liverpool's history is a big pulling power as would Manchester United's. I understand what you are saying, they will sign top players but it depends if they can get them to gel etc. Liverpool have havd some amazing talent but have only come close a couple of times. I just feel with Ferguson they've had the driving force behind them. Now thats gone, its going to take something special to re kindle the force. I dont think Moyes is it. He'll spend a wedge but I still think he will still be behind Man City and Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? The gap from the bottom and top is a lot bigger now than then. They haven't won the league but they've won literally everything else. Outside the very elite, they can pretty much sign anyone else which means they always have the potential to challenge and win honours with the right managers and owners. And that's L'pool. Man Utd have taken advantage of the extra revenue in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If anything, I think people are underestimating how quickly the gloss can come off a club and other better options become available. I'm not saying they won't sign people obviously, players will come if enough cash is forced into their offshore bank accounts. If it was Chelsea in this position I'd wholeheartedly agree. It's not. It's arguably the biggest name in World football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Manchester United still attracted the Bryan Robsons of this world when they were shit. It's as much a Busby legacy as it is Taggart's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Time will tell, this season was always going to be a wright off but they didn;t think it would be this bad. next season will be a better way to measure where they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? That was down to bad management mainly. They still attracted big name players though and still won trophies just not the League. I mean how does a team like Liverpool attract say a Suarez? Money is one factor but im sure Liverpool's history is a big pulling power as would Manchester United's. Suarez wasn't an elite player when they bought him though so that's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The majority of their honours have come since the SKY era when the money tap was turned on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? It's not the same, man. United's reach goes much further thanks to success coming at the right time, globally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? That was down to bad management mainly. They still attracted big name players though and still won trophies just not the League. I mean how does a team like Liverpool attract say a Suarez? Money is one factor but im sure Liverpool's history is a big pulling power as would Manchester United's. Suarez wasn't an elite player when they bought him though so that's why. He just cost the £20m. Man Utd. will be able to do that for the next 10 years and eventually they'll get it right. Traditionally, Man Utd. rarely sign superstars anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? It's not the same, man. United's reach goes much further thanks to success coming at the right time, globally. The man utd and Liverppool dominations were in different times but the overall issue isn't always spending power. Its having the right people at the club at the right time. Liverpool still had massive clout at the begining of the prem but they never had a driving force like Ferguson and the support he had from the Man UTD board. Man Utd can have as much reach around as they want but hiring hobos like Moyes wont get you to the top of the pile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Exactly what people said about Liverpool...how many league titles since the 80s? That was down to bad management mainly. They still attracted big name players though and still won trophies just not the League. I mean how does a team like Liverpool attract say a Suarez? Money is one factor but im sure Liverpool's history is a big pulling power as would Manchester United's. Suarez wasn't an elite player when they bought him though so that's why. They also paid him a lot of money. Their wage bills in 09-10-11 were 96.1M-114.3M-128.9M: they finished 2nd (08-09), 7th, 6th, 8th. Our equivalent wage bills and league positions were 60.5M-67.1M-91.1M: and 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th. Again, they maintained the wage bill of a CL club - capable of attracting the top players - by running at a considerable loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 There's a lot of potential at Liverpool so someone will always be willing to invest. Same with Manchester United. That is.... unless they get an owner like Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Not really its just that to get these players they will have to beat teams with even more money and just as much pulling power historically. It's not as if they are going after players we want, they are going after players Barca, Madrid, Bayern and so on and so forth want. Their pulling power isn't an advantage when they are going up against people with just as much pulling power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Not really its just that to get these players they will have to beat teams with even more money and just as much pulling power historically. It's not as if they are going after players we want, they are going after players Barca, Madrid, Bayern and so on and so forth want. Their pulling power isn't an advantage when they are going up against people with just as much pulling power. That is where the problem is now for them as in recent years there are more clubs ready to shoot them out the water than in the 90's and 2000 till recent years and the better players will be harder to obtain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 People are seriously underestimating Manchester United and their pulling power here. They are historically one of the biggest clubs in the World if not the biggest. They will get their transfer targets without CL football as long as Moyes or whoever is allowed to spend. Not really its just that to get these players they will have to beat teams with even more money and just as much pulling power historically. It's not as if they are going after players we want, they are going after players Barca, Madrid, Bayern and so on and so forth want. Their pulling power isn't an advantage when they are going up against people with just as much pulling power. They're trying to compete domestically first. It's Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City they've got to outperform in the transfer market. And generally they will irrespective of CL qualification position. They and Liverpool are the biggest clubs in England. Absolutely no doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Man Utd will always be a force in the game, home and abroad. Clubs like them don't tolerate failure nor settle for second best. They may have the odd season where they win nowt or 'struggle', but they will always be a super power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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