loki679 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Are these the quotes you lot are on about? Pardew said: "His conduct and professionalism are very, very impressive. That gives you heart that he's going to be a success. "Obviously he's definitely got technical quality, but he's got to get a grasp. I don't think he really gets referees. He moans (in training) when me and (assistant) John (Carver) ref - and we're better than Premier League refs! "He goes down and he thinks some of the challenges in this division should be fouls. He genuinely believes that - but they're not. "I think he's beginning to get the intensity of the division. The cameos he's done have been significant - Spurs, Liverpool, they were significant. "He's on the cusp of starting again now as he comes to grips with what this division's about. "It's about physicality and mentality, about where you should be on the pitch at a particular time, about how you can affect the opposition best." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Your argument is getting even more ridiculous. Remarkably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 So diving now equals jumping out of tackles? I thought diving meant simulating a fall after a tackle that never took place? Diving and avoiding contact isn't the same no matter how you try to twist it to suit your argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Dive or break your leg. Makes you wonder how teams in the olden days were able to get enough players to fulfill their fixtures. Diving IS completely abhorrent. Absolute horseshit I'm reading here, I'm out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 All this arguing is really upsetting me. Let's all be friends please? Cabella would want that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Are these the quotes you lot are on about? Pardew said: "His conduct and professionalism are very, very impressive. That gives you heart that he's going to be a success. "Obviously he's definitely got technical quality, but he's got to get a grasp. I don't think he really gets referees. He moans (in training) when me and (assistant) John (Carver) ref - and we're better than Premier League refs! "He goes down and he thinks some of the challenges in this division should be fouls. He genuinely believes that - but they're not. "I think he's beginning to get the intensity of the division. The cameos he's done have been significant - Spurs, Liverpool, they were significant. "He's on the cusp of starting again now as he comes to grips with what this division's about. "It's about physicality and mentality, about where you should be on the pitch at a particular time, about how you can affect the opposition best." You mean the quotes some are taking as Cabella already being written off? Yes, yes they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Aside from his usual smugness he's not said much wrong about Cabella there. One would think for £12m he'd be more impressive than he has so far. Was predictable as you like that he'd be too poncy for Pardew though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Aside from his usual smugness he's not said much wrong about Cabella there. Agree, his asking for soft as fuck fouls is the worst thing about his game and it's otherwise a fairly positive set of quotes, for a change. Soon as Jonas is ready to come back to training he needs to have a few hours with Cabella and run a "How to win a free kick" seminar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Yeah those quotes are nowhere near as sempuki made out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 So much from SanToon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Yeah those quotes are nowhere near as sempuki made out They're a fucking disgrace. He used 'me and John' instead of 'John and I'. Illiterate twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The image of The King and John Charva being refs in training has me incensed for some reason, walking over to a fallen French player and telling him to "gerrup Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore..." Anything this man says just pushes me over the edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'll never understand anyone, especially someone in this country, supporting diving, like. As if pretending has any legitimate part in professional sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The problem in a lot of other European and south American countries, is that diving and simulation is just a normal part of the sport. Doing anything you can to beat your opponent is all that matters, I don't know if has always been like that, but it certainly is the case nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 He's not even diving. Just quick to hit the deck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 There's no chance that we paid £12m for Cabella. Just saying, not that it does matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 How much did we pay then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 £11.9 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Aside from his usual smugness he's not said much wrong about Cabella there. One would think for £12m he'd be more impressive than he has so far. Was predictable as you like that he'd be too poncy for Pardew though. You don't get much for £12m in football these days tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Don't know if correct but i read somewhere that we paid £7-8m. Whatever we paid i very much doubt that t was £12m that was reported in most news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I reckon it could've been 12 million Euros, which would be around 9.5 million quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Easy way to solve diving is to implement two things - one, insert rule that players must at all times try their best to stay on their feet. If the ref believes they don't, they don't get a freekick/pen awarded. Second is to implement a standard post-game review panel that looks at the footage of each match and anyone kicking at players or stuff not spotted by the ref, including diving, gets punished harshly. You'd see probably a lot less free kicks, a lot less penalties in the short term, but over time once the review panels dish out post-match cards (yellows/reds) enough times, the game will become really free-flowing again. Would probably only take 5-6 matches into a season too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's weird it feels like we are just waiting for this guy to explode and become a monster on the pitch with skills, passing, dribbling etc. - so far he still looks shit scared of how rough it is over here, so can't apply his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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