Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Arsenal are a huge club, hence why the press etc have been banging on about the trophy drought. It's not like they did not have the players to win trophies over the last 9 years as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 The Emirates is always full isn't it? Arsenal have won cups in every decade for the last 40 years. They have been a big club. The West Ham comment is ludicrous. Yeah but West Ham won England the World Cup though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Just watched the highlights from the Scottish Cup final. Fucking hell, what a game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Perhaps not as spectacular as the Barca-Atletico title decider, but some issues still to be settled around Europe. La Liga - 2 relegation places still to be confirmed (Betis went a while ago). 2 from Valladolid, Osasuna, Granada, Getafe, Almeria. 19th placed Valladolid play 17th placed Granada. All the relevant games kick off at 5pm. Coming up to La Liga for 14/15 are..... well, don't know yet since the Segunda Division keeps playing for a silly amount of time. 3 games left, Deportivo looking good for (another) return, Eibar 2nd. Barcelona B currently 3rd - VI/others, what happens with them if they get "promoted"? Bundesliga - Hamburg are in danger of being relegated to the second tier for the first time in their history. Drew 0-0 with Greuther Furth at home in the first leg of the play-off, second leg is today at 4pm. Nurnberg and Braunschweig already gone. Coming up to the Bundesliga for 14/15 are Koln and Paderborn, with the final spot being filled by either Hamburg or Furth. Serie A - fuck all to play for. Top 6 will be the top 6 regardless of today's last fixtures. Livorno, Bologna and Catania relegated. Coming up to Serie A for 14/15 are Palermo (unsurprisingly ran away with Serie B), then the rest is yet to be determined. Crazy playoff system in Serie B involving 6 teams, 3rd-8th. Empoli currently in 2nd. Couple of games to go. tl;dr: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 B teams can't play in same league as their main team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Aye I know, so do they basically get a pat on the back, a round of applause then they pretend like nowt's happened? Would the runners-up in the playoffs then get promoted instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Perhaps not as spectacular as the Barca-Atletico title decider, but some issues still to be settled around Europe. La Liga - 2 relegation places still to be confirmed (Betis went a while ago). 2 from Valladolid, Osasuna, Granada, Getafe, Almeria. 19th placed Valladolid play 17th placed Granada. All the relevant games kick off at 5pm. Coming up to La Liga for 14/15 are..... well, don't know yet since the Segunda Division keeps playing for a silly amount of time. 3 games left, Deportivo looking good for (another) return, Eibar 2nd. Barcelona B currently 3rd - VI/others, what happens with them if they get "promoted"? Bundesliga - Hamburg are in danger of being relegated to the second tier for the first time in their history. Drew 0-0 with Greuther Furth at home in the first leg of the play-off, second leg is today at 4pm. Nurnberg and Braunschweig already gone. Coming up to the Bundesliga for 14/15 are Koln and Paderborn, with the final spot being filled by either Hamburg or Furth. Serie A - f*** all to play for. Top 6 will be the top 6 regardless of today's last fixtures. Livorno, Bologna and Catania relegated. Coming up to Serie A for 14/15 are Palermo (unsurprisingly ran away with Serie B), then the rest is yet to be determined. Crazy playoff system in Serie B involving 6 teams, 3rd-8th. Empoli currently in 2nd. Couple of games to go. tl;dr: A club isn't allowed two teams in the same tier so they'd stay put. They won it a couple of years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 That Marchissio goal man, class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Not sure Eibar will be allowed to be promoted. Know they were turned down last time cos their stadium holds about 5k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 So basically the Segunda Division is a farce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Las Palmas are a decent club to come up though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Not sure Eibar will be allowed to be promoted. Know they were turned down las time cos their stadium holds about 5k. Fascinatingly shit rule about them going down because they're too small - http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/laliga/id/1658?cc=5739 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Surely the premier league have similar stuff about stadium criteria? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Not sure Eibar will be allowed to be promoted. Know they were turned down las time cos their stadium holds about 5k. Fascinatingly shit rule about them going down because they're too small - http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/laliga/id/1658?cc=5739 Wow, that's ridiculous. No idea how the fans must be feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Disco can probably shed some more light on it as their league system appears to be absolutely mad, but I at least believe it's the last fixtures of Argentina's Torneo Final tonight and from what I can see, the title (?) is between Estudiantes and River? No, wait, it'll be combined between the Inicial and Final, no? Fuck it, I have no idea. There's Argieball tonight, put it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Didn't they used to have some mad rule that involved final positions being based on the last 3 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Relegation is based on an averaging system. At the end of each season, the two teams with the worst three-year averages and the worst positioned team in the season table are relegated, and the best team in the Primera B Nacional is promoted while the promotion of the other two is yet to be decided. There will be three promoted teams per season. Newly promoted teams only average the seasons since their last promotion. Simple, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Why FFS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm_92 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Speaking of promotion and relegation, The worst system is the belgium league, It's absolutely mental, Every team gets its total points halved and for relegation the 15th team gets a 3 point head start over 16th and they play 5 games head to head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Why FFS? Clearly to preserve the status quo but River were still that shit the other year they went down anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Speaking of promotion and relegation, The worst system is the belgium league, It's absolutely mental, Every team gets its total points halved and for relegation the 15th team gets a 3 point head start over 16th and they play 5 games head to head. http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/U+WOT+M8+description+.+http+www.facebook.com+martin.w.keating_079b02_4051759.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Hamburg look like saving their bacon, 1-0 up. Furth need 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm_92 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 The Play-off system in belgium Championship Playoff The point system in the championship playoff is the same as during the regular season, except that each team starts with half of the points they won in the regular season, rounded up to the nearest integer. The points gained by rounding are deducted in the case of a tie. The top 6 teams from the regular season enter the championship playoff, with the first-placed team winning the championship of Belgium. Each team plays their opponents twice, and the teams are ranked by points, points from rounding, wins, etc. as in the regular season. Europa League Playoff Teams ranked 7 to 14 after the regular season enter the playoffs 2, with teams ranked 7th, 9th, 12th and 14th entering the group A and teams ranked 8th, 10th, 11th and 13th entering the group B. In each group, each team plays each of its 3 opponents twice. The winner of each group plays the final game in two legs, to determine the winner of the playoffs 2. The winner of the playoffs 2 then plays a home and away game against either the fourth-placed or fifth-placed team from the playoffs 1 for the final Europa League ticket, with the opponent depending on the fact if the Belgian Cup winner ended in the top four of the playoff 1 or not. Relegation Playoff Teams ranked 15th and 16th after the regular season enter the relegation playoff. It consists of 5 games between the 2 teams. The 15th-placed team starts the playoffs with 3 points whereas the 16th-placed team starts from zero. The loser of the relegation playoff is relegated to the second division. The winner of that playoff enters the Belgian Second Division Final Round with 3 teams from the second division. The winner of this Final Round plays in the First Division the season thereafter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Why FFS? Clearly to preserve the status quo but River were still that shit the other year they went down anyway. It's liable to change next year again. Neil, title is short form table. They have (or did) a final between the two winners which decides nowt. Relegation is between Colon, Rafaela and Godoy Cruz. River and the two La Plata teams can win the league, if they're level on points it'll be a playoff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Game on in Germany, 1-1. Furth need a goal to get promoted and relegate Hamburg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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