Dan Gleebals Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 No chance they will win the title, not convinced they are top 4 either. Then again, Arsenal and Chelsea don't look great currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The Daily Mail has a Chelsea loan map. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/02/00/2BE3FFA900000578-0-image-a-23_1441149688982.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 SWARMING into Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I bet Islam Feruz is popular with the Chelsea fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 It simply shouldn't be allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The inter-divisional loaning bothers me the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Mathieu Debuchy has admitted he considered leaving Arsenal after losing his starting place to Héctor Bellerín. The French right-back joined Arsenal for £12m in July 2014 and saw his first season at the club heavily disrupted by injury, with problems with his ankle ligaments and a dislocated shoulder limiting him to just 11 Premier League starts. He has featured only once this season, in Arsenal’s 2-0 loss to West Ham, with Bellerín keeping him out of the side. The Spanish youngster also received his first call-up to the national squad this week. “It is difficult,” Debuchy told L’Equipe. “Even if I had not played a lot last season, in my head I would return to start after my recovery. But, at the Community Shield against Chelsea, Wenger chose him, Bellerín. “It was a surprise and a disappointment. Let’s say it [leaving] crossed my mind. But I want to be at Arsenal and to take my place.” Debuchy is currently training with the France squad before their friendlies against Portugal and Serbia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Mathieu Debuchy has admitted he considered leaving Arsenal after losing his starting place to Héctor Bellerín. The French right-back joined Arsenal for £12m in July 2014 and saw his first season at the club heavily disrupted by injury, with problems with his ankle ligaments and a dislocated shoulder limiting him to just 11 Premier League starts. He has featured only once this season, in Arsenal’s 2-0 loss to West Ham, with Bellerín keeping him out of the side. The Spanish youngster also received his first call-up to the national squad this week. “It is difficult,” Debuchy told L’Equipe. “Even if I had not played a lot last season, in my head I would return to start after my recovery. But, at the Community Shield against Chelsea, Wenger chose him, Bellerín. “It was a surprise and a disappointment. Let’s say it [leaving] crossed my mind. But I want to be at Arsenal and to take my place.” Debuchy is currently training with the France squad before their friendlies against Portugal and Serbia. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguinpookie/images/5/57/Nelson_haha.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140708210759 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 This guy signs our players and tells them that he put Enrique, Ba, Cabaye and Debuchy on the map. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Oh great ... will probably join Palace in January, along with Remy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The inter-divisional loaning bothers me the most. should get that checked out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Oh great ... will probably join Palace in January, along with Remy. Don't say that man - not that unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Mathieu Debuchy has admitted he considered leaving Arsenal after losing his starting place to Héctor Bellerín. The French right-back joined Arsenal for £12m in July 2014 and saw his first season at the club heavily disrupted by injury, with problems with his ankle ligaments and a dislocated shoulder limiting him to just 11 Premier League starts. He has featured only once this season, in Arsenal’s 2-0 loss to West Ham, with Bellerín keeping him out of the side. The Spanish youngster also received his first call-up to the national squad this week. “It is difficult,” Debuchy told L’Equipe. “Even if I had not played a lot last season, in my head I would return to start after my recovery. But, at the Community Shield against Chelsea, Wenger chose him, Bellerín. “It was a surprise and a disappointment. Let’s say it [leaving] crossed my mind. But I want to be at Arsenal and to take my place.” Debuchy is currently training with the France squad before their friendlies against Portugal and Serbia. Welcome to the post Newcastle fails club. Chairman: Andy Carroll. Manager: Jose Enrique Pancake Man: Olivier Bernard Cheeky Scamp: Charles Nzogbia Why is it our ambitious players that leave almost always fail at their next club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Because their desire to leave is stronger than their actual ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Didn't realise Cuadrado had gone on loan to Juve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Didn't realise Cuadrado had gone on loan to Juve. Aye paid £23 million for him in January and loaned him out six month later . Is that Denman in your avatar ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Didn't realise Cuadrado had gone on loan to Juve. Aye paid £23 million for him in January and loaned him out six month later . Is that Denman in your avatar ? And didn't really give him a chance to get in the side in the 6 months either. I still feel that Chelsea buy players to stop other teams buying them and getting more competitive, they then let them rot on the bench/in the reserves and loan them out to a foreign team later down the line. Cuadrado and Salah being pointers of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Never heard anything as ridiculous as the 'buying players to stop other clubs getting them' chelp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Never heard anything as ridiculous as the 'buying players to stop other clubs getting them' chelp. Why not? What is your explanation for the large amount of players that Chelsea sign (that other top 4 teams/Tottenham/Liverpool want) that then go on to make less than 10 appearances for Chelsea before being flogged off. Before you ridicule something, look into it a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 For example... Salah (wanted by Liverpool) - signed, no chances given, left. Loic Remy (wanted by Liverpool/Arsenal) - signed, no chances given, offered around to leave van Ginkel (wanted by Spurs) - signed, no chances given, left on loan to Stoke Moses (wanted by Liverpool) - signed, no chances given, sent on loan to nearly every/anyone Demba Ba (wanted to Liverpool/Arsenal/Man Utd) - signed, no chances given, left De Bruyne (wanted by Man City/Arsenal) - signed, no chances given, left Raul Merieles (wanted by Man City/Arsenal) - signed, no chances given, left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Never heard anything as ridiculous as the 'buying players to stop other clubs getting them' chelp. It's not that unlikely, it was common practice in the music business. Labels would sign bands similar to a big band that they already had and thrn never release anything by them so there was no competition. It's called parking iirc and not unusual in other businesses either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Chelsea haven't signed and "thrown away" any player that could have made a difference to any of their true rivals. The only one that appears to be good enough is, guess that, currently playing for one of their true rivals (De Bruyne). They just have a horrible transfer policy because they don't give a f*** about the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Never heard anything as ridiculous as the 'buying players to stop other clubs getting them' chelp. Why not? What is your explanation for the large amount of players that Chelsea sign (that other top 4 teams/Tottenham/Liverpool want) that then go on to make less than 10 appearances for Chelsea before being flogged off. Before you ridicule something, look into it a bit more. 'Look into it a bit more'? At best you're talking two clubs in England who would be able to do it, and between those clubs you're probably talking 10 players absolute maximum who the idea might apply to. You are essentially saying that a football club might sit down and consciously decide to waste millions of pounds on players they don't even want in order to stop the theoretical sale of said players to another club. The alternative being they've so much money they don't have to think out and research their buys so the moment someone shows something they buy them to get in ahead. When they arrive at the club it becomes obvious they're not going to work out so Chelsea sell them or loan them straight out because recouping money is also not important to them. I know which one makes the most sense aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Never heard anything as ridiculous as the 'buying players to stop other clubs getting them' chelp. Why not? What is your explanation for the large amount of players that Chelsea sign (that other top 4 teams/Tottenham/Liverpool want) that then go on to make less than 10 appearances for Chelsea before being flogged off. Before you ridicule something, look into it a bit more. 'Look into it a bit more'? At best you're talking two clubs in England who would be able to do it, and between those clubs you're probably talking 10 players absolute maximum who the idea might apply to. You are essentially saying that a football club might sit down and consciously decide to waste millions of pounds on players they don't even want in order to stop the theoretical sale of said players to another club. The alternative being they've so much money they don't have to think out and research their buys so the moment someone shows something they buy them to get in ahead. When they arrive at the club it becomes obvious they're not going to work out so Chelsea sell them or loan them straight out because recouping money is also not important to them. I know which one makes the most sense aye. As opposed to the ridiculous amount of money Chelsea will earn by winning the title/CL or keeping teams like Man Utd out of the top four? The merchandise alone from supporters deciding to follow Chelsea (because they're good) rather than Man Utd will recoup most of the money wasted. By buying the player, they then have complete control over who he moves to and under what conditions. You honestly believe someone like Cuadrado was purchased in Jan, given 6 months and then sold because he wasn't good enough? Get away man. I think you will find on a majority of loans, Chelsea are still paying a majority of the players wages - so you'll find your theory quickly breaks down with that effect. If you also look at the price of the signing/price of the sale on a majority of their players, it also breaks down. Chelsea are not arsed about losing £1m, £10m or £15m, as long as they win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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