afar Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 15 million for Kodija.... f***ing hell.... Think he played against us. Did he register with anyone? I've never heard of him. He did, can't remember Mick Lowes mentioning him too many times. He hasn't scored in 4 games this season if that's any indication of how good he is. You see it quite often that a club will buy a player few have heard of that has been knocking in the goals at lower levels for a ridiculous amount. They've bought two players now in McCormack and this guy, who in theory should give them enough goals to get out of the division. Their big problems though may be at the other end of the pitch, they seem to be shipping a fair few. The new owner though has splashed the cash, got to hand it to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Meh. We were nearly 20 points better than Villa last season and I don't think they've closed that gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sunderland have had their season long loan bid for Begovic rejected by Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Villa signing players for the completely wrong positions. Their problems were in different areas to what they have replaced and they haven't really addressed any issues from last season. Still think they'll be mid-table at best, they don't worry me at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I would strongly advise you do not question Doctor Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I cant wait for his public meltdown on Twitter, it's only a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sunderland have had their season long loan bid for Begovic rejected by Chelsea Classic mackem move of when nobody wants to go there resorting to loan deals the cretins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sunderland have had their season long loan bid for Begovic rejected by Chelsea Classic mackem move of when nobody wants to go there resorting to loan deals the cretins Eh? Shouldn't they be trying to bring someone in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Heh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 If my gut feeling ever took me to Hull, I'd be straight to A&E to get it looked at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 If my gut feeling ever took me to Hull, I'd be straight to A&E to get it looked at. Even if it avoided Sunderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hull or Sunderland. Ryan's Choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Stoke signing Bruno Martins Indi on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 If my gut feeling ever took me to Hull, I'd be straight to A&E to get it looked at. Even if it avoided Sunderland? Well in which case I would've said something like "My gut told me to stay the fuck away from Sunderland, so Hull will have to do". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hernandez knocked back Villa after they agreed a fee with Hull. Villa never were interested in Assombalonga (I'm amazed nobody has gone in for him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Villa signing players for the completely wrong positions. Their problems were in different areas to what they have replaced and they haven't really addressed any issues from last season. How do you work that out? I agree with you re us not going up necessarily, but I don't see how you can say that about our signings. Scoring goals was a grotesque failing for us last season. I'd say Kodija and McCormack are players signed in precisely the right positions. Whether or not they will turn out to be the answer, I don't know, but they are being brought in to address a very clear weakness. Our biggest failing last year was the total inability to defend. Amavi - Chester - Elphick - De Laet is much better than last year (when Amavi gets totally fit) and three of those are new players (and the other missed almost the whole season through injury). Jedinak is a signing which also should plug a massive weakness, but we could do with one more midfield addition. Like I said, the actual players may or may not work out, but we're definitely addressing the areas of the pitch where we had big problems (errrm, all of them). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hernandez knocked back Villa after they agreed a fee with Hull. Agent a tricky fucker by all accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hull have paid £13m for Ryan Mason. How the fuck does Levy do it? He won't pay over £15m for Zaha or £20m for Sissoko though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Not even anything special is he? Sure he just promotes players to the first team just so they get known and people think they must be good and pay over the odds for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Marcos Alonso having medical at Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Not even anything special is he? Sure he just promotes players to the first team just so they get known and people think they must be good and pay over the odds for them I quite like him from what I've seen, but he's nothing special no. He is very tidy on the ball. It's really hard to tell from limited appearances though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Villa signing players for the completely wrong positions. Their problems were in different areas to what they have replaced and they haven't really addressed any issues from last season. How do you work that out? I agree with you re us not going up necessarily, but I don't see how you can say that about our signings. Scoring goals was a grotesque failing for us last season. I'd say Kodija and McCormack are players signed in precisely the right positions. Whether or not they will turn out to be the answer, I don't know, but they are being brought in to address a very clear weakness. Our biggest failing last year was the total inability to defend. Amavi - Chester - Elphick - De Laet is much better than last year (when Amavi gets totally fit) and three of those are new players (and the other missed almost the whole season through injury). Jedinak is a signing which also should plug a massive weakness, but we could do with one more midfield addition. Like I said, the actual players may or may not work out, but we're definitely addressing the areas of the pitch where we had big problems (errrm, all of them). I think McCormack was a good signing - McCormack, Ayew and Gestede are very good options at this level. I think that was sufficient though and if you wanted another striker then just a back-up player would be enough (for rotation etc.). I think wasting £11m-£15m on this guy from Bristol City is a gamble and unnecessary when up front is your strongest area and those funds could have been used in other areas. I think you are incredibly weak in goal, current keeper looks suspect to me. Defence I agree has improved, but outside of the four you listed your options are quite poor and you could have done with a couple of good back-up options. I think the midfield is the biggest problem for you, as you identified. A good creative midfielder and winger are desperately needed as I just cannot see where Villa's chances are going to be created from. There's no point stockpiling four great strikers if they have nothing behind them in midfield. I think you still need 2x defenders, 2x midfielders and a better keeper than you have before you'll look in good shape. You still seem to have a losing mentality, which is worrying. Second the opposition scores you just crumble, which is what we did last season too. Not sure how/where that can be improved but it needs to quickly otherwise this season may be worrying. I think Villa are okay if your owner gives Di Matteo time, if he doesn't get you up this season then stick with him and carry on the rebuild. I have a fear that he sounds as crazy as he tweets and you'll end up going through a few managers if there isn't instant reward. We're different in the sense that I think Rafa would go if he fails to get us back up this year, so it's desperate that we do go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Marcos Alonso having medical at Chelsea 24million, bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hull have paid £13m for Ryan Mason. How the f*** does Levy do it? He won't pay over £15m for Zaha or £20m for Sissoko though. It's the classic looking at a player and who they play for rather than the player himself. We did the same thing with Obertan, oooh he played for Manure, he must be good !! Levy approach is to buy all the good English Talent and sell on the ones that don't work out, but give them a few games in the first team and/or some high profile loans, to increase their value. It's a sound approach, one we tried and failed miserably to follow. They obviously have a good scouting system and know when to pull the trigger on a deal and when not. His approach to buying though must piss off other owners and chairmen, it's always low ball and installment/incentive payments. I think a lot of other owners have woken up to his gameplan though and he's having a harder time pulling off the deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 £24m is a disgraceful fee but Alonso has been class recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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