The College Dropout Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 4-2-3-1 aka 4-4-1-1 for 90% of teams. Would love a genuine midfield 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Colback is a solid 6/10 player who chips in with tackles, blocks, assists and even goals. He would get in an around most PL matchday squads from Everton downwards. He was potentially our player of the season last year (a horrible honour). McClaren is playing a different system to Pardew/Carver and after watching the Gladbach and Southampton games it is clear that Colback needs to adapt somewhat. Anita, who has never done it for me in the past, clearly suits the new system down to the ground and is now one our most important players. To Colback's credit, once Anita went off, he had to do the job of two as Tiote was so far off the pace it was unreal and our structure fell apart. Tiote has been a liability for years and hopefully Anita and Colback continue to be selected ahead of him. To McClaren's credit, he is picking players to fit a system rather than just throwing the 11 "best" players onto the field. With the 4-2-3-1 system I see Anita and Colback as the first choice "2". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Anita and Colback aka Brothers Sideways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Jack Colback doesn't deserve this amount of debate, he's only notable for how average he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Colback is a solid 6/10 player who chips in with tackles, blocks, assists and even goals. He would get in an around most PL matchday squads from Everton downwards. He was potentially our player of the season last year (a horrible honour). McClaren is playing a different system to Pardew/Carver and after watching the Gladbach and Southampton games it is clear that Colback needs to adapt somewhat. Anita, who has never done it for me in the past, clearly suits the new system down to the ground and is now one our most important players. To Colback's credit, once Anita went off, he had to do the job of two as Tiote was so far off the pace it was unreal and our structure fell apart. Tiote has been a liability for years and hopefully Anita and Colback continue to be selected ahead of him. To McClaren's credit, he is picking players to fit a system rather than just throwing the 11 "best" players onto the field. With the 4-2-3-1 system I see Anita and Colback as the first choice "2". Well said mate; voice of reason. Only minor disagreement, pure opinion, is he has been (for us and the Mac-na-maras) a solid 6+ out of ten player. He is reliably above average and consistently puts in 'discretionary effort'; gives his all. A rare rather than 'to be expected' quality in premiership/any footballers, or any other job role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Colback is a solid 6/10 player who chips in with tackles, blocks, assists and even goals. He would get in an around most PL matchday squads from Everton downwards. He was potentially our player of the season last year (a horrible honour). McClaren is playing a different system to Pardew/Carver and after watching the Gladbach and Southampton games it is clear that Colback needs to adapt somewhat. Anita, who has never done it for me in the past, clearly suits the new system down to the ground and is now one our most important players. To Colback's credit, once Anita went off, he had to do the job of two as Tiote was so far off the pace it was unreal and our structure fell apart. Tiote has been a liability for years and hopefully Anita and Colback continue to be selected ahead of him. To McClaren's credit, he is picking players to fit a system rather than just throwing the 11 "best" players onto the field. With the 4-2-3-1 system I see Anita and Colback as the first choice "2". Well said mate; voice of reason. Only minor disagreement, pure opinion, is he has been (for us and the Mac-na-maras) a solid 6+ out of ten player. He is reliably above average and consistently puts in 'discretionary effort'; gives his all. A rare rather than 'to be expected' quality in premiership/any footballers, or any other job role. The fact he puts in 100% effort every game and is consistently 6+ rated he is a valuable asset to us until we actually sign an authentic "pirlo" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 4 goals and 6 assists last season, didn't realise it was so high, I just hate to watch how limited he is as a player though, so much so that I still don't want him in the starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 4 goals and 6 assists last season, didn't realise it was so high, I just hate to watch how limited he is as a player though, so much so that I still don't want him in the starting 11. I think Tiote is more limited as a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Nowt great, nowt terrible, nowt. Same as every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 See you next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Need to get rid of him or Jack... and Jack sin't going anywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Need to get rid of him or Jack... and Jack sin't going anywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thought i was in the Anita thread. One of them needs to go in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'd say both of them do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Since we're talking about Jack in the Anita thread and Anita in the Jack thread, I personally think Anita would have (and still could) succeed under McLaren's plans if McLaren hadn't bottled things elsewhere on the pitch. Giving Colo a new contract, not signing more defenders, and playing Obertan, Colback and Cisse alone up top making things ludicrously stretched in the middle of the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I can't judge either Anita or Colback until they are playing as either a defensive or attacking midfielder without the other there beside him as an insurance policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The only difference between those who prefer Colback and those who prefer Anita is that the ones who prefer Colback are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I don't prefer either of them, I think they are both shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I can't judge either Anita or Colback until they are playing as either a defensive or attacking midfielder without the other there beside him as an insurance policy. The pair of them don't fit comfortably in any of those roles though. Both halfway house players more suitable to a midfield flat 3. Anita isn't strong enough defensively to be a DM, Colback isn't strong enough offensively to be an AM. Both essentially water carriers. A crap version of Arteta & Flamini CM partnership. I don't even know who is meant to be who. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 He's as much use as mens tits, and the sooner he's out of our starting eleven the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 He's as much use as mens tits, and the sooner he's out of our starting eleven the better. I don't know, mine have become quite the erogenous zones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The only difference between those who prefer Colback and those who prefer Anita is that the ones who prefer Colback are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The only difference between those who prefer Colback and those who prefer Anita is that the ones who prefer Colback are wrong. What a load of nonsense. Anita's been here 3 years and done absolutely nothing of note (West Ham at home last season apart). Colbacks had 1 season, scored 4 times and managed 6 assists for us. He's also a better defensive midfielder than Anita as well. In saying that I'd still Colback wasn't in our first XI either but he'll be an ever present this season, fitness permitting. I've got several friends over in Eindhoven who warned me Anita was hopeless when we signed him but I put that down to them just not liking him because he was from Ajax and they are all PSV fans and hate everything Ajax. So far they've been bang on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The only difference between those who prefer Colback and those who prefer Anita is that the ones who prefer Colback are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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