Hatem Ben Arfa (now retired?)

[huss9]

pointless. Bruce wouldn't come anyway. building a decent side at hull and has a good relationship with the owner.

[NG32]

I think it's more the fact that people immediately dismiss someone like Bruce - but when you actually analyse his record, it really isn't that bad.

 

Isnt that bad?

 

He was a fuckng laghng stock at Sunderland.

[Foluwashola]

He is the fat-headed embodiment of bog standard British management. And he drags his shit son around with him. Hull is about right for him.

 

He's one of the best managers in the Premier League tbh. It's a shame Hull didn't progress in Europe this year because part of me can still see Bruce here one day, and it would be good if he had European experience by that point. As a manager he's done well wherever he has been, apart from the Mackems, which was obviously an horrendous appointment.

 

They didn't progress in Europe because he completely forfeited the competition. An attitude I'm sure would not be welcomed here.

 

They tried to do what we did and played a weakened team but failed while we just barely scraped through thanks to a referee.

 

Let's not forget (ignore) that they went 2-0 up in the FA Cup final last season.

 

Tried and failed miserably against Belgian giants Lokeren.

 

There's no doubt he's doing a good job at Hull like and I don't mind him as a person, but he didn't succeed when he reached the heady heights of Sunderland and not once in his 10+ years of management (pre-Ben Arfa) has anyone looked forward to seeing a Steve Bruce team play.

 

Ignore everything I said then.

 

Thought I responded fairly directly to your justification of his limp European effort and admitted he is generally performing impressively at Hull, with the obvious highlight giving them the biggest day in their history.

 

He'd go the way of Allardyce, Pardew et al if he found himself in our dugout though. Dull, dull football. SanToon mentioned McClaren, that would be a much more acceptable appointment.

 

But anyway, Ben Arfa.

[Guest chopey]

Don't those Johnny foreigner's make good mangers these days 

[Hughesy]

I think it's more the fact that people immediately dismiss someone like Bruce - but when you actually analyse his record, it really isn't that bad.

 

Isnt that bad?

 

He was a fuckng laghng stock at Sunderland.

 

He's done pretty well everywhere else.

[Slim]

Not hard to be a manager.

 

Get HBA on loan

Play HBA

Win

[ShootGol]

Not hard to be a manager.

 

Get HBA on loan

Play HBA

Win

 

Even better when he had Pards on the phone doing all he can to offload him, how's your luck

[The Bard of Byker]

Replacing Pardew's 'our fret was impotent cos we was all out of magic' with Bruce's 'wor pants were pulled down and wor bums were smacked today' doesn't appeal. Both miserable apologists.

[Wullie]

Only 4 teams were worse than us between January and May, 3 went down and the other one was Hull. I think he has done a good job there because they're Hull City, but we're not.

[TRon]

Only 4 teams were worse than us between January and May, 3 went down and the other one was Hull. I think he has done a good job there because they're Hull City, but we're not.

 

Exactly. He's a good manager for Hull but we really should be aiming higher. It seems these days fans are expected to welcome every no mark from Peter Beardsley to Tony Pulis on the basis anyone is better than Pards. Well no...none of them are good enough, Ashley the fat cunt should go out and bring in a manager who is fit for this club. Or fuck off and buy Peterborough FC and try marketing Sports Direct at their ground.

[Johny1982]

Bruce is massively better in fat he can set a balanced team up, doesn't play half the team of of position to shoe-horn in his favourites, and isn't an arrogant, obnoxious prick. He does look like a emotional dinner lady though.

 

Amazing typo

 

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

Only 4 teams were worse than us between January and May, 3 went down and the other one was Hull. I think he has done a good job there because they're Hull City, but we're not.

Hull were a newly promoted side with far less resources than NUFC had in 2010, yet survived fairly comfortably while also doing well in cups. That is a fantastic season, however you want to spin it. This season they have been more ambitious in their transfers, and should look to be more expansive and finish higher. We will see what happens.

 

Bruce is perfectly competent, IMO, anyway.

[Wullie]

Only 4 teams were worse than us between January and May, 3 went down and the other one was Hull. I think he has done a good job there because they're Hull City, but we're not.

Hull were a newly promoted side with far less resources than NUFC had in 2010, yet survived fairly comfortably while also doing well in cups. That is a fantastic season, however you want to spin it. This season they have been more ambitious in their transfers, and should look to be more expansive and finish higher. We will see what happens.

 

Bruce is perfectly competent, IMO, anyway.

 

He is competent if you support Wigan or Hull. He's not competent enough to manage Newcastle (not a Newcastle being run properly anyway), he wasn't even competent enough to manage sunderland.

 

Would Spurs or Everton give him a job? That's the level we should be aiming for at an absolute bare minimum. Neither would go near Steve Bruce in a million years and rightly so.

 

Just because I hate Pardew doesn't mean I'm going to lower my expectations for the type of manager that should be leading NUFC.

[Guest]

Bruce turned us down in 2004 didn't he?

 

He was considered a viable option when we were a top 5-6 club with cash to spend by the club.

[Guest northshieldsmag]

Hatem Ben Atfa's final slide into obscurity has begun. Yesterdays man, another talented player who wasted his career.

[Ronaldo]

Not all his fault, of course, but he's pissed his talent away to an extent, no doubt.

[Wullie]

Bruce turned us down in 2004 didn't he?

 

He was considered a viable option when we were a top 5-6 club with cash to spend by the club.

 

So was Graeme Souness. Not sure Freddy Shepherd's opinion on managers is one I'd go trusting.

[Guest northshieldsmag]

He is the fat-headed embodiment of bog standard British management. And he drags his s*** son around with him. Hull is about right for him.

 

He's one of the best managers in the Premier League tbh. It's a shame Hull didn't progress in Europe this year because part of me can still see Bruce here one day, and it would be good if he had European experience by that point. As a manager he's done well wherever he has been, apart from the Mackems, which was obviously an horrendous appointment.

 

When Shepherd spoke about appointing him there was a mass rebellion. I think as a  manager he's a plodder who is probably having his best years now but he'll be remembered for nothing in particular apart from Hull fans for reaching their first FA Cup Final.

[Belfast Mags]

Only 4 teams were worse than us between January and May, 3 went down and the other one was Hull. I think he has done a good job there because they're Hull City, but we're not.

Hull were a newly promoted side with far less resources than NUFC had in 2010, yet survived fairly comfortably while also doing well in cups. That is a fantastic season, however you want to spin it. This season they have been more ambitious in their transfers, and should look to be more expansive and finish higher. We will see what happens.

 

Bruce is perfectly competent, IMO, anyway.

 

He is competent if you support Wigan or Hull. He's not competent enough to manage Newcastle (not a Newcastle being run properly anyway), he wasn't even competent enough to manage sunderland.

 

Would Spurs or Everton give him a job? That's the level we should be aiming for at an absolute bare minimum. Neither would go near Steve Bruce in a million years and rightly so.

 

Just because I hate Pardew doesn't mean I'm going to lower my expectations for the type of manager that should be leading NUFC.

 

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

Only 4 teams were worse than us between January and May, 3 went down and the other one was Hull. I think he has done a good job there because they're Hull City, but we're not.

Hull were a newly promoted side with far less resources than NUFC had in 2010, yet survived fairly comfortably while also doing well in cups. That is a fantastic season, however you want to spin it. This season they have been more ambitious in their transfers, and should look to be more expansive and finish higher. We will see what happens.

 

Bruce is perfectly competent, IMO, anyway.

 

He is competent if you support Wigan or Hull. He's not competent enough to manage Newcastle (not a Newcastle being run properly anyway), he wasn't even competent enough to manage sunderland.

 

Would Spurs or Everton give him a job? That's the level we should be aiming for at an absolute bare minimum. Neither would go near Steve Bruce in a million years and rightly so.

 

Just because I hate Pardew doesn't mean I'm going to lower my expectations for the type of manager that should be leading NUFC.

 

Can't argue with that.

[sempuki]

Hull are on the telly next week against West Ham - will be interesting to see how he gets on.

[Ketsbaia]

He's average - better than Pardew but not good enough to get us where we should be.

[Guest hatem garrincha]

Hatem was made for NUFC imo.

But Pardew is really a shit manager.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I'm just remembering Ginola and me being 11. I think if I had both side by side at the same age I'd love Hatem more. I can't even imagine what I'd have been like after the Bolton goal considering what I was like with the Man United goal. Still love Daveed like, but fucking hell. HBA under Keegan, can you imagine that man!?

[M4]

Stop