Wullie Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Given his consistent rate of goals/assists when he's actually allowed on the field, I find that an extraordinary statement but fair enough, we're not going to agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Becasue a large number of employed Football managers are uneducated former players, who in Steve Bruce's case especially, have received a large number of knocks to the head. These retards are so fixed in their stone age ways, they see no place for talented mavericks who don't conform to the 'work rate', 'ethic' or other buzzword bollocks. I'm sorry, but are you saying every manager in Europe is too thick to buy Ben Arfa? I remember someone saying earlier in this thread that it was the fault of every manager Ben Arfa has played under that he hasn't achieved his true potential. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. "It's everybody's fault except Hatem's that he isn't playing for a top club". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I must admit that I start to doubt the sanity of a man who doesn't believe a regular creator and scorer of goals being in the side ahead of a man who has scored 1 goal and has 1 assist in 24 games would make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Thank fuck for talents like Ryan Taylor, Yoan Gouffran and Gabby Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Next week on N-O "I honestly don't think it would have made a difference to Chelsea's season had Eden Hazard been replaced with Shola Ameobi" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. You mean this season, right? As in a team that for a large number of games has included Gouffran, Riviere, Raylor and Gutierrez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Becasue a large number of employed Football managers are uneducated former players, who in Steve Bruce's case especially, have received a large number of knocks to the head. These retards are so fixed in their stone age ways, they see no place for talented mavericks who don't conform to the 'work rate', 'ethic' or other buzzword bollocks. I'm sorry, but are you saying every manager in Europe is too thick to buy Ben Arfa? I remember someone saying earlier in this thread that it was the fault of every manager Ben Arfa has played under that he hasn't achieved his true potential. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. "It's everybody's fault except Hatem's that he isn't playing for a top club". I can only speak for his time in England and being managed by Pardew and Bruce. Those 2 for some unknown reason hold respect in the game, and most of their equally thick as fuck former teammates are brown-nosing them at every chance in the media. At least half the premier league managers are vile mixtures of arrogance and incompetence, so yes, yes it is their fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't think anyone doubts that there's something unconventional and potentially difficult about Ben Arfa's personality. We don't know the details, but I think that has a lot to do with why average managers struggle with him. When in fact they should do what Fergie did with Cantona and not give a flying fuck as long as he's so talented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If your system requires your most creative forward running around like a blue arsed-fly chasing shadows, or being woefully out of position because he's busy covering his fullback, then there's obviously something fundamentally wrong. We've went from being a side noted for entertainment to coddling a bunch of daft cunts who dream of a team of 11 Jack Colbacks. It's complete insanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Robert and Ginola were lazy cunts too. Fucking hate players like that. Robert was very hard working in an attacking sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Maybe I'm wrong, but his limited contribution this season for Hull, last season for us, plus the fact that everybody's given up tells me he'd be no different. Amazing that I'm the one being laughed at in this thread when there are people who genuinely think there is some international conspiracy against Hatem started by Pardew and Bruce! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 HBA would've certainly made a difference. Direct wingers of his ilk are an absolute necessity in our current set up because we don't coach a team game, we need his sort that can rise above the lack team strategy and just do things on their own (even if it's once every 5 games). Invariably, these sorts of lads tend to cost a lot of money, though, so we've shot ourselves in the foot. I do think he lost a little something after his 12/13 injury, but he'd have still made a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Maybe I'm wrong, but his limited contribution this season for Hull, last season for us, plus the fact that everybody's given up tells me he'd be no different. Amazing that I'm the one being laughed at in this thread when there are people who genuinely think there is some international conspiracy against Hatem started by Pardew and Bruce! forget everything else. You said hba wouldn't have had any positive affect on our shambloic results. that on its own, is complete bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe I'm wrong, but his limited contribution this season for Hull, last season for us, plus the fact that everybody's given up tells me he'd be no different. Amazing that I'm the one being laughed at in this thread when there are people who genuinely think there is some international conspiracy against Hatem started by Pardew and Bruce! Wullie stated his contribution last season on a game by game basis, for pens won, goals scored, and assists provided. At Hull it's was always gonna be shit with Bruce in charge you maniac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe I'm wrong, but his limited contribution this season for Hull, last season for us, plus the fact that everybody's given up tells me he'd be no different. Amazing that I'm the one being laughed at in this thread when there are people who genuinely think there is some international conspiracy against Hatem started by Pardew and Bruce! Wullie stated his contribution last season on a game by game basis, for pens won, goals scored, and assists provided. At Hull it's was always gonna be s*** with Bruce in charge you maniac. Aye, and I think he stated 3 games? Oh yeah sorry, forgot everybody in football is s**t except for Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well this escalated...I wont bother.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Weren't Hull playing a 352 when Benny was there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Plus he managed an assist in those few games. Anyway, no difference to our points tally Retarded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Can't even see how this is up for debate. We are severely lacking in players who can deliver moments of quality in attacking areas. The likes of Cabella, Gouffran, Ameobi, Guttierez, Ryan Taylor and so on are objectively not fit to lace Ben Arfa's boots in that sense and their added (and often mythical) "work rate" has hardly done us any favours at the other end of the pitch. Their impact in attacking areas is basically non-existent and the lack of threat they provide makes opponents comfortable pushing forward in numbers against us. Ben Arfa would walk into this team in a heartbeat under any manager with a single footballing brain cell, but instead his style of play makes him an easy fall-guy for those without. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Indeed, the point Wullie is putting across is quite simple. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Maybe I'm wrong, but his limited contribution this season for Hull, last season for us, plus the fact that everybody's given up tells me he'd be no different. Amazing that I'm the one being laughed at in this thread when there are people who genuinely think there is some international conspiracy against Hatem started by Pardew and Bruce! It has nothing to do with any kind of conspiracy, and everything to do with them both being absolute dog shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Aye, and I think he stated 3 games? Oh yeah sorry, forgot everybody in football is s**t except for Hatem. f*** me, you are beyond help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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