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Self preservation from Colo, given that he just can't handle players running at him. You've only got to look at the way he turned his back on two shots on Saturday which led to the goals. Utter coward.

What can he handle apart from the ball being passed around in front of him slowly?

 

Very little now. He's decent at recovery tackles when he ends up in a bad position. That's about it.

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Colo and Shola suck up to Pardew no question. Simple as that. Both non-frenchies so didn't hesitate to whinge about Ben Arfa. It's why Shola got games ahead of him, while Colo who was whining about going back to Argentina not long before, came straight back into the team ahead of, and to the cost of Yanga-Mbiwa's progress, despite him really beginning to find some form.

 

 

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can anyone tell me whats the issue between Hatem and Colo? i saw some people mentioned this and say Colo is the shittest captain ever.  I may have missed something?

 

Colo called Hatem fat and said that he doesn't track back and cover his fullback enough.

 

Source?

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Almost everything that i've loved about this club is gone now  :undecided: Benny is or was probably the last one at the club that i genuinely had love for, a player and character that i really really liked. It's just so sad  :'( Krul is possibly another but personally i can't compare the two.

 

Normally i would use bad words about Pardew, but now i just want him to die even more brutally than ever..

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Almost everything that i've loved about this club is gone now  :undecided: Benny is or was probably the last one at the club that i genuinely had love for, a player and character that i really really liked. It's just so sad  :'( Krul is possibly another but personally i can't compare the two.

 

Normally i would use bad words about Pardew, but now i just want him to die even more brutally than ever..

 

Krul doesn't come close to what Ben Arfa represented. We've sold/loaned out the only player (until Cabella proves otherwise) that represented what football and this club is all about.

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Almost everything that i've loved about this club is gone now  :undecided: Benny is or was probably the last one at the club that i genuinely had love for, a player and character that i really really liked. It's just so sad  :'( Krul is possibly another but personally i can't compare the two.

 

Normally i would use bad words about Pardew, but now i just want him to die even more brutally than ever..

 

Krul doesn't come close to what Ben Arfa represented. We've sold/loaned out the only player (until Cabella proves otherwise) that represented what football and this club is all about.

 

This. Hatem for me pretty much personified our club. Urgh.

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Almost everything that i've loved about this club is gone now  :undecided: Benny is or was probably the last one at the club that i genuinely had love for, a player and character that i really really liked. It's just so sad  :'( Krul is possibly another but personally i can't compare the two.

 

Normally i would use bad words about Pardew, but now i just want him to die even more brutally than ever..

 

Krul doesn't come close to what Ben Arfa represented. We've sold/loaned out the only player (until Cabella proves otherwise) that represented what football and this club is all about.

 

This. Hatem for me pretty much personified our club. Urgh.

 

This, for me Hatem represented what the club means to me and how I want us to play but also represented hope and was like the martyr to the cause, he personified the fight against Pardew. That was the problem though, Pardew made it a him or Hatem thing and realised which way it was going so had to remove him.

 

It's definitely like the heart just got ripped out of the club, the last part of its soul is gone.

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can anyone tell me whats the issue between Hatem and Colo? i saw some people mentioned this and say Colo is the shittest captain ever.  I may have missed something?

 

Colo called Hatem fat and said that he doesn't track back and cover his fullback enough.

can anyone tell me whats the issue between Hatem and Colo? i saw some people mentioned this and say Colo is the shittest captain ever.  I may have missed something?

 

Colo called Hatem fat and said that he doesn't track back and cover his fullback enough.

can anyone tell me whats the issue between Hatem and Colo? i saw some people mentioned this and say Colo is the shittest captain ever.  I may have missed something?

 

Colo called Hatem fat and said that he doesn't track back and cover his fullback enough.

 

That's up to Pardew to address, tell Colo to frig off and let him manage though but no, he agreed.

 

Beresford often talks about how he whinged to Keegan about Ginola not tracking back but he was told where to go.

 

Aye, the Rob Lee quote about it is class from Keegan, proper manager that understood football

 

Rob Lee: "To be honest, I wasn't so sure when we signed Ginola. He was a Frenchman who was supposed to be quite moody and a primadonna and at first I thought there would be problems. We trained a few times and had a few practice games and the rest of the players seemed to be doing all his running, especially fullback John Beresford. I started having a moan during the training session and after it, Keegan pulled me in. He left me in no doubt how he felt. "Look, I know he's got his faults and I understand what you're saying about his work rate but he could win us the league! So if you've got to do a bit extra, then you've got to do it."

 

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Urgh, them quotes from the Hull City forum are so depressing to read. Imagine signing a player who excites as much as he does knowing that your manager is likely to utilise him to his full potential  :(

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Urgh, them quotes from the Hull City forum are so depressing to read. Imagine signing a player who excites as much as he does knowing that your manager is likely to utilise him to his full potential  :(

 

Can we take Bruce and Hatem back from them please

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I'll never forget what Pardew did to the fella. Hell I wonder what CH is thinking about this - the man signed him and basically put him in a "go on and play son" role immediately

 

That Everton game was outrageous.

 

The old I'm just going to rip the piss merciless for the full 90mins. Unbelievable.

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I don't think some people understand what this game is about ultimately. If I go to St James these days it's usually as an initiation process for one of the younger generation of my family and I must have just hit lucky the last couple of times that Ben Arfa was magic on both occasions. The kids were off their seats cheering and joining in with the general euphoria in the ground on those occasions. It doesn't surprise me at all that there were 100 Hull fans chanting Ben Arfa's name at 11pm on transfer deadline day. I can guarantee one thing, they won't be going down this season. Can't say the same for us.

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Can't believe that lot have over taken us so quickly.

 

Wey, they haven't though. They just have our best player and (goes without saying) a better manager.

 

I was looking through their team today ... they have surpassed us man. They have better centre backs, midfielders and strikers. Hull City.

 

Mostly because Pardew has ruined all of ours.

 

That's simply not true like. You're being a hypochondriac. They haven't 'overtaken' us aside from having our best player and a better manager, that's it. Not even worth debating.

 

I meant strictly team wise. I think theirs has surpassed ours. I don't even know who we have that is any good anymore. We're in a state.

 

 

 

 

That's simply horseshit like.

 

Okay, well I guess we'll have to disagree on that.

 

:thup: I have no problem with that. I like it when two people can just agree to disagree.

 

For sure. I do think we have some decent players, but maybe I'm just a bit too down on things at the minute. Pardew makes them look so poor, I worry if they can be redeemed sometimes.

 

We have some good players, Pardew really does restrict any talent he can with his tactics (and if that doesn't work he drops them) but we shouldn't let that convince us they're shit or half his job is done already.  Its hard to stop yourself from giving in to the malaise he creates, but you just have to consider what these players were before they came here.  For instance Remy Cabella was arguably the player of the season in France last year, I'm far from writing him off, same goes for De Jong.

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I said a few months ago I can't think of anyone we have who the kids would want on the back of the shirt these days. Who would they imitate if they still played football in the park? Suppose it's easier now as they can just sign Messi on the computer then control him and not have to be doing shuttle runs at the edge of the grass pretending to be Gouffran.

 

Dread to think who the top shirt seller is this season.

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I said a few months ago I can't think of anyone we have who the kids would want on the back of the shirt these days. Who would they imitate if they still played football in the park? Suppose it's easier now as they can just sign Messi on the computer then control him and not have to be doing shuttle runs at the edge of the grass pretending to be Gouffran.

 

Dread to think who the top shirt seller is this season.

Pretty obvious imo, Cabella.

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