loki679 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Robert and Ginola were lazy cunts too. Fucking hate players like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 OK, I said I wouldn't say anything else but I'll bite. I don't care about him in 2004. Let's look at the clubs who've been interested in him lately, Hull and Nice. No matter how many times I say I can't stand Sammy, Obertan or Pardew, I obviously must secretly love them all just because I don't think the sun shines out of Hatem's arse. It has nothing to do with the sun shining out his arse. It's the FACT that he is a dangerous offensive player who can turn a game on it's head and win you points out of nothing. When we play teams do you think they were doubling up on Ben Arfa or Gouffran? Do you think all week in training the opposition labelled Obertan as the "Main threat". Why do you think only Hull and Nice will touch such a dangerous, offensive player then? Is the whole continent under Pardew's spell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Are you sure you like Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 All of this is moot because even if he was still here Carver would have him playing with the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hull are managed by Steve Bruce and are below us, and Nice legally aren't allowed to play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Becasue a large number of employed Football managers are uneducated former players, who in Steve Bruce's case especially, have received a large number of knocks to the head. These retards are so fixed in their stone age ways, they see no place for talented mavericks who don't conform to the 'work rate', 'ethic' or other buzzword bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Why do you think only Hull and Nice will touch such a dangerous, offensive player then? Is the whole continent under Pardew's spell? Because people like you believe Pardew's bullshit about being lazy, fat and not helping the team. The media believed it, other clubs fans believe it because they only pay attention to NUFC when the play us home and away. It doesn't take a fucking genius to see that he's an extremely talented individual, who's reputation has been dragged through the dirt to cover one managers short comings. And that is Alan Pardew. He played for the 2 biggest teams in France. And scored goals for us that I will never forget. He is the reason people fall in love with the sport and get off their seats at the match. He's a maverick and it's why we all follow the game. I suppose when you were a kid playing football on the field, you pretended to be somebody more hard working and trustworthy? Like Phil Neville. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to fuck man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Given his consistent rate of goals/assists when he's actually allowed on the field, I find that an extraordinary statement but fair enough, we're not going to agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Becasue a large number of employed Football managers are uneducated former players, who in Steve Bruce's case especially, have received a large number of knocks to the head. These retards are so fixed in their stone age ways, they see no place for talented mavericks who don't conform to the 'work rate', 'ethic' or other buzzword bollocks. I'm sorry, but are you saying every manager in Europe is too thick to buy Ben Arfa? I remember someone saying earlier in this thread that it was the fault of every manager Ben Arfa has played under that he hasn't achieved his true potential. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. "It's everybody's fault except Hatem's that he isn't playing for a top club". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I must admit that I start to doubt the sanity of a man who doesn't believe a regular creator and scorer of goals being in the side ahead of a man who has scored 1 goal and has 1 assist in 24 games would make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Thank fuck for talents like Ryan Taylor, Yoan Gouffran and Gabby Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Next week on N-O "I honestly don't think it would have made a difference to Chelsea's season had Eden Hazard been replaced with Shola Ameobi" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. You mean this season, right? As in a team that for a large number of games has included Gouffran, Riviere, Raylor and Gutierrez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Becasue a large number of employed Football managers are uneducated former players, who in Steve Bruce's case especially, have received a large number of knocks to the head. These retards are so fixed in their stone age ways, they see no place for talented mavericks who don't conform to the 'work rate', 'ethic' or other buzzword bollocks. I'm sorry, but are you saying every manager in Europe is too thick to buy Ben Arfa? I remember someone saying earlier in this thread that it was the fault of every manager Ben Arfa has played under that he hasn't achieved his true potential. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. "It's everybody's fault except Hatem's that he isn't playing for a top club". I can only speak for his time in England and being managed by Pardew and Bruce. Those 2 for some unknown reason hold respect in the game, and most of their equally thick as fuck former teammates are brown-nosing them at every chance in the media. At least half the premier league managers are vile mixtures of arrogance and incompetence, so yes, yes it is their fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't think anyone doubts that there's something unconventional and potentially difficult about Ben Arfa's personality. We don't know the details, but I think that has a lot to do with why average managers struggle with him. When in fact they should do what Fergie did with Cantona and not give a flying fuck as long as he's so talented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If your system requires your most creative forward running around like a blue arsed-fly chasing shadows, or being woefully out of position because he's busy covering his fullback, then there's obviously something fundamentally wrong. We've went from being a side noted for entertainment to coddling a bunch of daft cunts who dream of a team of 11 Jack Colbacks. It's complete insanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Robert and Ginola were lazy cunts too. Fucking hate players like that. Robert was very hard working in an attacking sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You seem to have left my question unanswered for about the third time. I don't think he would have won us any more points than any of our current players. Get to f*** man. absolute lunatic. probably part of the 'Alex Ferguson couldn't have done any better with these players' brigade. Maybe I'm wrong, but his limited contribution this season for Hull, last season for us, plus the fact that everybody's given up tells me he'd be no different. Amazing that I'm the one being laughed at in this thread when there are people who genuinely think there is some international conspiracy against Hatem started by Pardew and Bruce! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 HBA would've certainly made a difference. Direct wingers of his ilk are an absolute necessity in our current set up because we don't coach a team game, we need his sort that can rise above the lack team strategy and just do things on their own (even if it's once every 5 games). Invariably, these sorts of lads tend to cost a lot of money, though, so we've shot ourselves in the foot. I do think he lost a little something after his 12/13 injury, but he'd have still made a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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