xLiaaamx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Whatever was once there technique-wise looks gone. Just an empty shell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 It's his inability to carry the ball at all now that is the biggest issue. I think our search for a number 10 needs to bring in someone who can get a hold of it and run 20 yards up the pitch before passing or winning a freekick. Thats more important than finding a killer pass or loads of goals right now. Hence why Rafa preferred Sissoko to Wijnaldum there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Had such high hopes for him when he initially broke through, God knows what's happened to him over the last two seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He’s not very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Even his work rate didn’t appear to be as high as it has been which has been the justification for him playing. Hopefully he can pick it up for Saturday as we are stuck with what we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Horrible place to lose the ball in your own third, that. Rafa blamed the 'mistake' for losing the game and he got hauled off straight after. Be interesting to see the 11 Saturday, that's two games running we've looked toothless going forward. We'll pick up points as we're now hard to beat but Rafa won't be happy with the final third (Perez/Joselu) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He's never convinced me as a deeper attacker. He's not built for strength and hold-up play, his decision-making is and always has been abysmal and now his technique seems to be disappearing too. Great finisher and movement, but not fit for Rafa's system as a number ten and I fear he won't cut it as a solitary striker. Shame as I really like him and was pretty exited about him a few years ago.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Would like to see Merino given a shot in the number 10 role like he plays for Spain. Albeit we missed him (and Hayden) in the middle last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Would like to see Merino given a shot in the number 10 role like he plays for Spain. Albeit we missed him (and Hayden) in the middle last night. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Not making excuses for his performance last night, but I think he'd be a lot better with a striker in front of him that actually moves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Not making excuses for his performance last night, but I think he'd be a lot better with a striker in front of him that actually moves. Funnily enough the reverse opinion has been mentioned in the Joselu thread. Imo I think they're just both not good enough. Both can generally do the chasing opponents bit competently, but the rest of both of their games is really poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He's fucking crap, let's be honest. He's only there because we have no-one near good enough to take the role Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He was played more as an out and out striker when he was first played wasn't he? That coupled with the time it took for the opposition to work him out might have led to him having a bit of a purple patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 After yesterday I've come to the conclusion that so far, he's simply not suited to the system Rafa wants to play. Ayoze's best performances for us have come either on the left wing as a LWF, or an out and out striker. Even as a second striker behind Mitro he played really well. But this whole backs-to-the-goal, deeper role where he has to be creator and fend off battling defenders and DMs on his back has really curbed his natural style of play. He always looks best when he's going at the goal, approaching the box, as he has that bit of skill to cut in or create an extra yard of space to either beat a man or get a shot in, or an assist. But all of this seems to be negated when he has to face the other way and look out for defenders trying to nick it off him / foul him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest milburn990 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I like Ayoze as a player but how can he disappear for so long in matches, is it because he has absolutely nowt to work with up front i don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Weak as piss, mind his role doesn't suit him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 After yesterday I've come to the conclusion that so far, he's simply not suited to the system Rafa wants to play. Ayoze's best performances for us have come either on the left wing as a LWF, or an out and out striker. Even as a second striker behind Mitro he played really well. But this whole backs-to-the-goal, deeper role where he has to be creator and fend off battling defenders and DMs on his back has really curbed his natural style of play. He always looks best when he's going at the goal, approaching the box, as he has that bit of skill to cut in or create an extra yard of space to either beat a man or get a shot in, or an assist. But all of this seems to be negated when he has to face the other way and look out for defenders trying to nick it off him / foul him. Was just trying to write something on Perez and I think you're spot on actually. He's a very strange player to work out - feels like he should be able to play as a number 10, but something just isn't clicking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Shit for too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Didn't Perez play as a lone striker when he first came? Thought he did alright from what i can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Didn't Perez play as a lone striker when he first came? Thought he did alright from what i can remember. Problem is he is too weak and that is why he will never succeed in English football. Th amount of times the kid loses the ball is pathetic to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Played as a LF from what I can remember, Cisse was up too when he arrived I think. I don’t think it’s just his position like, there’s deffinitely something off with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He is such an strange player, I know it's been said many times, but he is. The goal against Southampton was excellent because he didn't just give up on it and was alert to the possiblities, showing a strikers instinct. He had a good effort yesterday in the second half (it was actually the one positive thing I saw from Joselu all night, as he fed him the ball). But these incidents are so very few and far between, he's just not effecting games nearly as much as he needs to, he's in the most pivotal role for a Rafa team and it's killing us from an attacking perspective that he is so ineffective. He is such a nice lad though, that you are always pulling for him, but the number 10 role in a Rafa team is so ill suited for him, honestly difficult to determine what role he would excel in. We need to upgrade in January, there is zero options for replacing him in the current squad, unless Rafa ditches his formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cisse didn't come in until much later really. Perez kept him out of the team most weeks till Boxing Day where Perez played LW against Everton. Cisse then got himself banned for an elbow. But Carver never fancied him. Used Cisse and Riviere together where he could, until Cisse got another ban for spitting and had to use him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The most annoying thing about the goal was that he'd been caught like that two or three times already. He has to learn. That happens to him about 70% of the times he gets the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Played as a LF from what I can remember, Cisse was up too when he arrived I think. I don’t think it’s just his position like, there’s deffinitely something off with him. I seem to remember him on the left wing. He seemed more comfortable in space, going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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