Flip Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Do you bet a lot based on previous events? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Well yeah. If you don't look at form tables and shit you're looking to lose. Looking at Messis form for Argentina = Not a good bet for the Argentina top scorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Messi is overrated. Wouldn't cut it in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Well yeah. If you don't look at form tables and s*** you're looking to lose. I meant previous events from years ago. Because saying it's like throwing away money betting on Messi in the international stage is clearly that. I mean he scored 10 goals in qualifiers which is the most recent event from the international stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Messi is overrated. Wouldn't cut it in the Premier League. :lol: Especially on a wet tuesday night at Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Well yeah. If you don't look at form tables and s*** you're looking to lose. I meant previous events from years ago. Because saying it's like throwing away money betting on Messi in the international stage is clearly that. I mean he scored 10 goals in qualifiers which is the most recent event from the international stage. He's not been in great shape for Barca this season. Scores a lot less regularily for Argentina and has done shit tournaments up to now. No proper signs it'll turn around this time other than the fact his name is Lionel Messi. It's the same argument as Rooney, he's not doing it for England on the main stage. He scores in qualifiers and friendlies, sure. But on the main stage? He goes missing. He's a great player for his club team, and because his name is Wayne Rooney people always expect that to translate to the International stage as well. But it doesn't always work like that. On the other side of the spectrum you have Miroslav Klose who is an absolute beast Internationally but never lived up to that reputation on club level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I get your points, but he still scores quite regularly for Argentina compared to what most players do for national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 He scored 28 in 31 last season. He's also scored 19 in his last 19 games in the last 3 years for Argentina. I'll take that ratio over the next 5-7 games like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Straight forecast - Brazil - Croatia Spain - Holland Colombia - I.Coast France-Switzerland Argentina - Bosnia Germany - Portugal Belgium - Russia Placed on it £1 which I found on the floor. Funny if it'd return £2048. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Straight forecast - Brazil - Croatia Spain - Holland Colombia - I.Coast France-Switzerland Argentina - Bosnia Germany - Portugal Belgium - Russia Placed on it £1 which I found on the floor. Funny if it'd return £2048. Think Holland could let you down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just made my bets for now. Laid Brazil v Croatia £35. Returns £100 if Brazil doesn't win. (will lay them even harder against Mexico if they don't win jinxing all the way, I'm gonna come out with money or happiness) Laid Brazil qualify from group. £5 returns £100 Spain (vHolland), Chile (vAustralia), Uruguay (vCRica), France (vHonduras), Argentina (vBosnia), Holland (vAustralia), Italy (vCRica), Argentina (vIran), Germany (vGhana), Spain (vAustralia), England (vCRica), Ivory Coast (vJapan), Colombia (vGreece) £10 returns £1700 England x (vItaly), Switzerland (vEcuador), Germany (vPortugal), Russia (vSouthKorea), Italy (vCRica), Argies (vIran), Mexico (vCameroon), Chile (vAustralia). £5 returns £1000 Basically putting money on Costa Rica and Australia leaving with 0 points. Spain and Argies qualifying easily from their group. Then some to put the odds up. Doesn't look completely impossible. Have some other bets and will put some more long-term. Germany is 1.5x to reach quarterfinals, which I think they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Well yeah. If you don't look at form tables and shit you're looking to lose. Looking at Messis form for Argentina = Not a good bet for the Argentina top scorer. His form for Argentina under Sabella is 19 goals and 13 assists in 19 games. He's been the most 'in form' international player anywhere over the last 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Well yeah. If you don't look at form tables and shit you're looking to lose. Looking at Messis form for Argentina = Not a good bet for the Argentina top scorer. His form for Argentina under Sabella is 19 goals and 13 assists in 19 games. He's been the most 'in form' international player anywhere over the last 3 years. We'll see after the WC if I'm right or wrong regarding it being a bad bet betting for him as Argentina's top scorer in the WC. I maintain it is. I can fully understand why some wouldn't. But we'll see. I think Messi is the best active player in the world, but the reasons I'd not bet on him at the WC are the same reasons why I wouldn't bet on Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Well yeah. If you don't look at form tables and s*** you're looking to lose. Looking at Messis form for Argentina = Not a good bet for the Argentina top scorer. His form for Argentina under Sabella is 19 goals and 13 assists in 19 games. He's been the most 'in form' international player anywhere over the last 3 years. We'll see after the WC if I'm right or wrong regarding it being a bad bet betting for him as Argentina's top scorer in the WC. I maintain it is. I can fully understand why some wouldn't. But we'll see. I think Messi is the best active player in the world, but the reasons I'd not bet on him at the WC are the same reasons why I wouldn't bet on Rooney. Like I said earlier, that's absolutely fair enough, it's jsut that you said you were looking in form rather than previous big tournaments which is exactly what you are doing. In terms of international form he's clearly a favourite to win it. I wouldn't bet on him either because of the other players there like Higuain, Palacios, Lavezzi, Di Maria and Aguero who can all score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 http://i59.tinypic.com/10xy3hc.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Sign up for betfair through thefootballramble and you'll get 10/1 on Brazil winning (max £10). Worth it if you haven't signed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 http://i59.tinypic.com/10xy3hc.png interesting market..... might place an 8 fold or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Coral giving away £20 to new customers, 2/1 for Brazil to wear yellow on Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Coral giving away £20 to new customers, 2/1 for Brazil to wear yellow on Thursday. ? 2/1? They are wearing yellow. WTF? Been confirmed by FFIA already no? *ah right max-bet £10. Says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Coral giving away £20 to new customers, 2/1 for Brazil to wear yellow on Thursday. ? 2/1? They are wearing yellow. WTF? Been confirmed by FFIA already no? *ah right max-bet £10. Says it all. Says it all? They're literally just giving people £20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 do you need to spend it with them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 do you need to spend it with them? Nope, you can just withdraw it as soon as it's settled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Another new account for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Another new account for me. What other bets have you got from offers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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