Nobody Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Agree he doesn't look good but at the same time he's had about an hour of football after a year out with a terrible medical problem, think there's certainly room to hope that this isn't as good as he gets. Anyone remember how turboshit Demba Ba was in his first few games for us, barely looked like a footballer and look what happened there. I don't necessarily think the problem is even entirely with De Jong; if we had a solid spine and 2 really competent banks of 4 that could defend, get bodies forward and support Mitrovic with De Jong behind then he'd have a role to play as I've no doubt he'd score goals. Sadly we have none of that and look unlikely to for a very long time, therefore we simply can't carry him as we'd be effectively playing with 10 men in every game. 8 if you count Anita and Colback as a partnership in midfield Unfortunately this. I'd love to see him involved more this season mind, as I don't want to write him off already. Can't see him getting many chances unless Perez gets injured, and even so, it's likely that we just move Wijnaldum to the number ten position and bring in Thauvin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 A victim of his own injuries, and the fact we have looked complete rubbish playing him in the only formation that suits him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 If nobody knows what he's capable of then how do you know he's going to score goals after a run in the team? Aye it's all guesswork really. I'm not confident he'd perform better than Perez whether he got a run in the team or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 If nobody knows what he's capable of then how do you know he's going to score goals after a run in the team? Aye it's all guesswork really. I'm not confident he'd perform better than Perez whether he got a run in the team or not I'd like to see him get a proper run, just so we can see if we're missing out on anything. Would be annoying if it was another Nacho Gonzales, Albert Luque or Xisco type scenario, especially since we're as shit as we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Suppose the only way he doesn't get a chance is if Mitrovic and Perez both play well for the rest of the season. Which isn't the worst outcome in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Suppose the only way he doesn't get a chance is if Mitrovic and Perez both play well for the rest of the season. Which isn't the worst outcome in the world. Thing is even if Mitrovic gets crocked (god forbid) not sure he would be the replacement. He's another neither nowt nor summit' player for me. Can't see him and Ayoze being a good partnership either. In a front 3 then maybe?? But have we got the midfield to accommodate that...fuck we barely have a midfield to play 442? lad is undoubtedly talented but I think his future may well be back in another league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gomez Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 He looks like he might have something about him in the box, so he might do alright playing off Mitrovic. I wouldn't pick hime ahead of Perez or Wijnaldum, but it's not like we'd be messing with a winning formula... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's annoying that he's struggling because he's really likeable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Why not fucking drop the idea of colback and Anita playing together and pick this lad instead. I think tiote beside him could work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I've seen absolutely nothing of this guy to suggest he could fit in at centre-midfield. 99% of the time he's nowhere to be seen and weak as shit whilst in possession. Can't speak for his performances at Ajax but he's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard in this side. It's a cliche but we need a centre-midfielder who takes the game by the scruff of the neck. Someone who stays strong in possession and can feed the forwards, whilst being positionally astute and physical off the ball. De Jong is absolutely none of those things based on what we've seen so far. He needs to go tbh, for everyone's sake. A total swing-and-a-miss from day one, just completely the wrong signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Diamond midfield with Tiote at the base, Wijnaldum and Sissoko on the sides and De Jong at the apex. Mitro and Ayoze up top. I'd like to see that at some point please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 He's just not quick enough an extra yard or two and he'd be great. He is a good player but I can't see it happening myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Same goes for Thauvin mind but I'm again not impressed with McClaren's apparent lack of a plan to integrate the fringe players properly. He's got himself into a situation where he's pinned down by making the result absolutely everything and he's relying on the same 11 players every week then doing a Pardew and throwing the likes of Thauvin in for a few minutes here and there. Of course, there's no chance that that strategy will bite us on the arse between now and January is there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Same goes for Thauvin mind but I'm again not impressed with McClaren's apparent lack of a plan to integrate the fringe players properly. He's got himself into a situation where he's pinned down by making the result absolutely everything and he's relying on the same 11 players every week then doing a Pardew and throwing the likes of Thauvin in for a few minutes here and there. Of course, there's no chance that that strategy will bite us on the arse between now and January is there? I don't think you can blame him for 'not integrating the fringe players properly'. He sees Wij-Mitro-Ayo-Siss as the front four to go with, which isn't a bad shout by any means. They're our four best attacking players and he's (rightfully, imo) sticking with that set-up. He can't help the fact our centre-midfielders are turgid wank and shackle us from the get-go. Perhaps, in the long-term, Thauvin will take one of Sissoko or Wijnaldum's place, allowing one of them to drop deeper. It'll be easier for him to integrate into a set-up that is solid and well-understood as opposed to hotch-potching from week to week, like Pardew would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Same goes for Thauvin mind but I'm again not impressed with McClaren's apparent lack of a plan to integrate the fringe players properly. He's got himself into a situation where he's pinned down by making the result absolutely everything and he's relying on the same 11 players every week then doing a Pardew and throwing the likes of Thauvin in for a few minutes here and there. Of course, there's no chance that that strategy will bite us on the arse between now and January is there? I don't think you can blame him for 'not integrating the fringe players properly'. He sees Wij-Mitro-Ayo-Siss as the front four to go with, which isn't a bad shout by any means. They're our four best attacking players and he's (rightfully, imo) sticking with that set-up. He can't help the fact our centre-midfielders are turgid wank and shackle us from the get-go. Perhaps, in the long-term, Thauvin will take one of Sissoko or Wijnaldum's place, allowing one of them to drop deeper. It'll be easier for him to integrate into a set-up that is solid and well-understood as opposed to hotch-potching from week to week, like Pardew would. There isn't only one way to play, just he's only managed to find one. I can and do blame him for not integrating players as he's the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-uniteds-siem-de-jong-10508974 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Class stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Would start him on Saturday and give him a few games to see how he does. Has shown nowt but neither have his teammates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 We have a team full of yellow bellied cowards, and this guy certainly doesn't seem to be that sort at all. Can we please make sure he is in the team going forward now for goodness sake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 We have a team full of yellow bellied cowards, and this guy certainly doesn't seem to be that sort at all. Can we please make sure he is in the team going forward now for goodness sake! He actually seems like the most timid of the lot when he plays tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Rubbish. Give him a run of games and he'll prove that is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I would start him now, possible make him captain as well. Change the system to accommodate him in a free-ish role. He has ability, he's intelligent, he's an experienced captain and he's not too tainted by the shite of previous months. It's not guaranteed to work but we have to shake something up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Would also definitely start him. I'd rather we built a team around our players with a more positive attitude than trying to shoe horn players like Sissoko into the side in the hope to get the best out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Rubbish. Give him a run of games and he'll prove that is nonsense. This is what people always say about players that aren't playing. From what I've seen he's very slow and has no aggression(probably due to his injuries) while being a good player technically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 He is slow and he doesn't have much aggression, but those are only two attributes of a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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