Disco Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Any news of when Santon and Cisse are back btw? Late Sept (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Any news of when Santon and Cisse are back btw? Late Sept (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) I'll put them down as mid october then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Colo seems to be in horrific form in pre season, he has been our best defender for years now but it looks like he could be on the downturn now Could be on the downturn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Surely you can agree Haidara deserves a chance to nail down the spot though? Santon has had a free run at it since coming into the club with no competition, and rarely looked exceptional. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Haidara is quite clearly inferior to Santon defensively and going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Santon has had 3 seasons in our first team and not improved one bit. Furthermore, leftbacks should be left footed, sick of seeing him spack up a clearance down the line because he doesn't know what his left foot is supposed to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I don't think it's as straightforward as "leftbacks should be left footed", but I think it would be nice if he wasn't very right-footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Santon has had 3 seasons in our first team and not improved one bit. Furthermore, leftbacks should be left footed That's all nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Santon has had 3 seasons in our first team and not improved one bit. Furthermore, leftbacks should be left footed That's all nonsense. The guy is a complete liability defensively who doesn't position himself well and switches off far too often when someone makes a run from behind him. Furthermore, as we don't have a line hugging left winger the width needs to come from the left back, which exposes Santon's reluctance to both hit the byline and cross with his left foot. Haidara is very raw, but he's naturally stronger, quicker, a better defender and also happens to be left footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Aye, alright. A better defender ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Haidara's place to lose IMO. Dummet isn't good enough at this level while santon has hit a brick wall some time ago and can't seem to make that next big leap in his development. Haidara isn't as good now, but I think a full season as first choice and by the end of it no one will want santon back in the team. I like santon, hope it doesn't pan out like that but we need a stronger player back there and he's shown nothing to suggest its him or it will be him anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Haidara is quite clearly inferior to Santon defensively and going forward. Thought he looked solid defensively in pre season, but the real stuff will be the test of that. Going forward without a doubt Santon is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Santon has had 3 seasons in our first team and not improved one bit. Furthermore, leftbacks should be left footed That's all nonsense. The guy is a complete liability defensively who doesn't position himself well and switches off far too often when someone makes a run from behind him. Furthermore, as we don't have a line hugging left winger the width needs to come from the left back, which exposes Santon's reluctance to both hit the byline and cross with his left foot. Haidara is very raw, but he's naturally stronger, quicker, a better defender and also happens to be left footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Haidara gets a few months to earn the spot. The kid has barely played any Premier League games, certainly not enough for some of the bullshit descriptions placed against him by some in this thread. Was absolutely criminal when we were playing Ba and Papiss up front having a left back incapable of putting the ball into the box. Having a right footed left back has strengths and weaknesses, but it was such a clear flaw in our side in recent seasons purely based on the the personnel up front and the type of football we have played over the last few seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He'll have a dodgy 45 minutes v City, which let's face it, better full-backs than him will have, and that'll be Pardew's excuse to put Dummett on at half-time and then start until Santon's back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 How on the earth is Haidara a better defender than Santon? He deserves a chance though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Krul Janmaat Williamson Mbiwa Santon Anita Sissoko HBA de Jong Cabella Cisse/Riviere Would love to watch that side play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The competition between Haidara and Santon might just raise both of their games a little and provide us with adequate cover. I have always complained about Santon's lack of interest in tracking back and covering ground after forays up the field, Haidara at least puts the effort in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The competition between Haidara and Santon might just raise both of their games a little and provide us with adequate cover. I have always complained about Santon's lack of interest in tracking back and covering ground after forays up the field, Haidara at least puts the effort in... Competition between Haidara and Santon -> Dummett starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 my starting XI: -------------------Krul-------------------- Janmaat----Willo-------Colo--------MYM ------------Sissoko-----Anita---------- -Cabella---------De Jong---------Aarons -------------Riviere---------------- Pardle's: ---------------Krul------------------- Janmaat----Willo --Colo-----Haidara -----------Tiote----Colback---------- Sissoko--------De Jong-------Cabella ------------Riviere--------------- *My only complaint is for us not to have signed a decent CB, think his thinking is that Curtis Good and Lascelles will do as back up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 my starting XI: -------------------Krul-------------------- Janmaat----Willo-------Colo--------MYM ------------Sissoko-----Anita---------- -Cabella---------De Jong---------Aarons -------------Riviere---------------- Pardle's: ---------------Krul------------------- Janmaat----Willo --Colo-----Haidara -----------Tiote----Colback---------- Sissoko--------De Jong-------Cabella ------------Riviere--------------- *My only complaint is for us not to have signed a decent CB, think his thinking is that Curtis Good and Lascelles will do as back up... I don't think Lascelles can be recalled from loan this year, so that'd rule him out. And the 'Pou at LB? Have you no mercy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 my starting XI: -------------------Krul-------------------- Janmaat----Willo-------Colo--------MYM ------------Sissoko-----Anita---------- -Cabella---------De Jong---------Aarons -------------Riviere---------------- Pardle's: ---------------Krul------------------- Janmaat----Willo --Colo-----Haidara -----------Tiote----Colback---------- Sissoko--------De Jong-------Cabella ------------Riviere--------------- *My only complaint is for us not to have signed a decent CB, think his thinking is that Curtis Good and Lascelles will do as back up... I don't think Lascelles can be recalled from loan this year, so that'd rule him out. And the 'Pou at LB? Have you no mercy? Actually think he has played his best football for us at left back, as centre back he looks far too lightweight, specially in the air... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Krul Williamson Coloccini Janmaat Haidara Tiote Colback Sissoko Cabella de Jong Riviere Swap Haidara for Dummett and I think you've got it. Doubt it, Haidara has started nearly every pre season game while Dummett has been getting minutes here and there. Mike 1 - Woj 0 Everyone loses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Well done, Mike, you came up with the shittest Pardew like line up. I hope you're very proud of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Well done, Mike, you came up with the shittest Pardew like line up. I hope you're very proud of yourself. I am! I feel like Jodie Foster looking at the crazy motherfucker behind the glass. I've got him fucking sussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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