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Even the most idiotic of pundits are giving him some blame now.  It might be helpful to a few more if a future 4-0 loss is on Sky, so all their analysis can focus on just how disorganised we are.  Maybe then they can see it's the actual instructions going to the players that fall well short of professional level.  Hopefully he'll be gone before that can happen though.

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Welcome Gino, great first post! :)

 

Desperately clutching at straws here, I know.. however..

 

Hasn't Ashley had previous for sounding people out on the sly for positions when people have still been employed?

 

Could it be that he's seen the club nosedive early or been inquisitive as to why his apparent favourite player was loaned out, and either not playing or going for what he would consider good money / a return on investment?

 

Any reason why Charnley would travel all the way down to Southampton to sit and talk with him through the match? If Pardew wanted an English contingent, why did he only get Colback on a free and the Forest lads for peanuts then loaned back? It's desperate thinking, but that doesn't sound like backing your man to me. Could the postponement of the fans forum also be to avoid the Pardew topics being dragged out and dealing with disgruntled fans again over the same issue?

 

No papers banned for the Pardew '2 games to save his job' reports? With all the speculation before the Hull game, there's no way they would have left it alone.

 

Is this why carver bit so badly, and the players looking like they care less?

 

Isn't this the dreaded vote of confidence? the kiss of death from the club?

 

That's my last and only shred of hope

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I can't help worrying that if the Hull game isn't enough, nothing will be.  If he can survive that, then he'll probably get used to it being that bad and it'll slide right off him.  I don't know if Ashley cares how bad it gets either.  I fear that people might be right and it'd take an empty stadium to really do it.  Still, those are the fears.  I'm hopeful it'll have some impact, because it's going to be crazily bad I imagine.  I saw enough in Hull tonight to think they'll score a few against us, so I doubt we'll win to make it any better for him.

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Someone asked before if Total Sport is vetted for calls. Certainly isn't, otherwise they wouldn't let me on! All I have seemed to do this year is stick the boot into Pardew and the club.

 

It is in a way because they try to provide "balance", so if they get 100 anti-Pardew and 2 lunatics, they'll put the latter on with 2 of the former. Just ends up making the show sound farcical, although Anderson does that too.

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Someone asked before if Total Sport is vetted for calls. Certainly isn't, otherwise they wouldn't let me on! All I have seemed to do this year is stick the boot into Pardew and the club.

 

It is in a way because they try to provide "balance", so if they get 100 anti-Pardew and 2 lunatics, they'll put the latter on with 2 of the former. Just ends up making the show sound farcical, although Anderson does that too.

 

Basically this:

 

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Gary Neville getting Newcastle spectacularly wrong again. He always has it for the squad up here, whether it's 'too many foreigners' or whatever. It's weird how every set of players we've had under this manager turn into under-motivated, unmanageable slush, isn't it? Wonder what the constant is?

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Gary Neville getting Newcastle spectacularly wrong again. He always has it for the squad up here, whether it's 'too many foreigners' or whatever. It's weird how every set of players we've had under this manager turn into under-motivated, unmanageable slush, isn't it? Wonder what the constant is?

 

For someone who analyses tactics well he gets a lot of things unbelievably wrong.  He is apprenticing under Roy Hodgson though and he says he's doing a good job with England, despite it being a near equivalent international failure version of what Pardew has done with us.  The same things trotted out all and sundry from critics too, about it not being Roy and it being the players, as if Costa Rica suddenly have a better squad than England.

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How well do you think Pardew should be doing then ?

 

In regards to what part of his job?

 

You started this topic. You say you hate him. So how well do.you think he or any other Newcastle manager should be doing ?

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It's simple really, although Neville talks a good game he's just the same as 90% of pundits. Beyond the elite, they barely see anything of anyone else's games, then are paid to comment with authority over subjects they aren't experts in. Leading to unresearched explanations and, on many occasions, clichés and stereotypes. It's just the way it is but it riles me when bullshit gets said with such confidence.

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Gary Neville getting Newcastle spectacularly wrong again. He always has it for the squad up here, whether it's 'too many foreigners' or whatever. It's weird how every set of players we've had under this manager turn into under-motivated, unmanageable slush, isn't it? Wonder what the constant is?

 

Never ever have a go at the manager as I might have to work with him in the very near future. I also may be a manager in the future and I don't want anyone pointing the figure so I won't do it myself. It's as cowardly as the shit Pardew gets up to. 

 

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Gary Neville getting Newcastle spectacularly wrong again. He always has it for the squad up here, whether it's 'too many foreigners' or whatever. It's weird how every set of players we've had under this manager turn into under-motivated, unmanageable slush, isn't it? Wonder what the constant is?

 

Never ever have a go at the manager as I might have to work with him in the very near future. I also may be a manager in the future and I don't want anyone pointing the figure so I won't do it myself. It's as cowardly as the s*** Pardew gets up to.

 

or may have to work with him on a certain well known Saturday afternoon football panel

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You started this topic. You say you hate him. So how well do.you think he or any other Newcastle manager should be doing ?

 

He's shit at everything he does, which part of his job do you want me to comment on?  Do you mean results? Do you mean tactics?  Do you mean PR?  Do you mean at picking the team?  Do you mean motivating the team?  Do you mean at pinpointing where we're going wrong?  Do you mean what do does with his 4 days of working on our defence?  Be more specific and I'll have a go at answering it, I'm not going into everything because it's all been done before and life is too short.

 

How do you think he's doing?

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It's simple really, although Neville talks a good game he's just the same as 90% of pundits. Beyond the elite, they barely see anything of anyone else's games, then are paid to comment with authority over subjects they aren't experts in. Leading to unresearched explanations and, on many occasions, clichés and stereotypes. It's just the way it is but it riles me when bullshit gets said with such confidence.

 

How is Gary Neville not an expert in how to succeed in the premiership ? Do you mean he has said something that doesn't suit you ?

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You started this topic. You say you hate him. So how well do.you think he or any other Newcastle manager should be doing ?

 

He's s*** at everything he does, which part of his job do you want me to comment on?  Do you mean results? Do you mean tactics?  Do you mean PR?  Do you mean at picking the team?  Do you mean motivating the team?  Do you mean at pinpointing where we're going wrong?  Do you mean what do does with his 4 days of working on our defence?  Be more specific and I'll have a go at answering it, I'm not going into everything because it's all been done before and life is too short.

 

How do you think he's doing?

 

What did you think of him when we finished 5th ? Do you think he has good enough players ? What do you  mean by PR what do you think he should be saying ?

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You started this topic. You say you hate him. So how well do.you think he or any other Newcastle manager should be doing ?

 

He's s*** at everything he does, which part of his job do you want me to comment on?  Do you mean results? Do you mean tactics?  Do you mean PR?  Do you mean at picking the team?  Do you mean motivating the team?  Do you mean at pinpointing where we're going wrong?  Do you mean what do does with his 4 days of working on our defence?  Be more specific and I'll have a go at answering it, I'm not going into everything because it's all been done before and life is too short.

 

How do you think he's doing?

 

What did you think of him when we finished 5th ? Do you think he has good enough players ? What do you  mean by PR what do you think he should be saying ?

 

http://sackpardew.com/myths/

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