George Bailey Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Always assumed Paul Heaton was a Hull fan. Me too. Shared a pint with him in the Mainbrace pub in Hull 20 years ago as a student. My claim to fame.. very sad I know, but played 5 a side against him and the other Housemartins in Ashingon years ago, after a gig they had been playing in Newcastle. Went for a few swallies after the game with them, sound lads back then. Seem to recall one of em being a blade, think it was the drummer though. 'Fatboy slim' and me played in nets... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Always assumed Paul Heaton was a Hull fan. Me too. Shared a pint with him in the Mainbrace pub in Hull 20 years ago as a student. They followed Hull through living there but he's always been Sheff United and knows/kicks about with a number of their radgies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 @SkySportsNewsHQ BREAKING: Sheffield United retracts decision to allow convicted rapist Ched Evans to train with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/sheffield-united-ched-evans-2094632.aspx Following the statement dated 11th November and after ongoing and extensive deliberation, Sheffield United Football Club has decided to retract the opportunity for its former player, Ched Evans, to use the Club's facilities for training purposes, as was previously intended. Members of the Board have consulted dispassionately with the Club's supporters, Vice Presidents, Community Foundation members, executives, staff, sponsors and other relevant stakeholders in order to help it reach this decision. Also, the Club has been diligent in communicating with The Football Association, The Football League, The Professional Footballers' Association (The PFA), The Football Association of Wales and The National Probation Service to take further soundings. We recognise that a number of our supporters will be disappointed with this decision, but would ask that they remember the responsibilities we have not only to a fine and proud Club, whose history stretches back over 125 years, but also to the communities in which Sheffield United is active and to the City we represent. The Club initially accepted a request from The PFA for Ched Evans to be able to train. The reaction to this has been at an intensity that could not have been anticipated when first announced. As noted in previous statements from the Club, the legal system of this country provides for both the punishment and the rehabilitation of every person who has been found guilty of a crime. Sheffield United will not be used to promote the view that professional footballers should be treated differently, as has been the want of certain sections of the media and various commentators. In addition, we remain disappointed at some of the inaccurate reporting, misinformed views and commentary, as well as the actions of a minority of individuals on social media. Professional footballers must be treated as equals before the law. The Club condemns rape and violence of any kind against women in the strongest possible terms. The Club is aware that Ched Evans is pursuing legal recourse via the Criminal Cases Review Commission in the determination he has to clear his name. We trust that he will be afforded a fair hearing. During this whole period, we have been served a timely reminder of what we have been throughout our history: Sheffield United is a Family and Community Club that, even in times of adversity, will remain strong and grow from its experiences. The Club will not be making any further comment on this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I reckon he'd fit in at Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 How long til Dave Whelan comes out and says "come on it's not like he properly raped her, he'll be a great signing" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I am sure someone will take him on. Good on SU though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Common sense prevails at last. Suspect Evans may have to go abroad (if he is able) to resume his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Odd arse-covering statement IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Pointless cowardly statement and decision IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 From Sheffield United's point of view, the likes of Lee Hughes and Luke McCormack were imprisoned for manslaughter/drunk driving and then given pro contracts again; they were merely allowing a convict to train with them upon release, after a request from the PFA. I don't think they expected the media furore as those two incidents didn't have one nearly as big as this one has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 From Sheffield United's point of view, the likes of Lee Hughes and Luke McCormack were imprisoned for manslaughter/drunk driving and then given pro contracts again; they were merely allowing a convict to train with them upon release, after a request from the PFA. I don't think they expected the media furore as those two incidents didn't have one nearly as big as this one has been. I can't help but wonder if the large media interest was mostly because it was an international week which don't have much going on for the journos to write about at the best of times. No doubt it would have gotten some coverage regardless but I think it might have gotten buried under premier league or champions league instead of a not very exciting qualifying campaign for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 From Sheffield United's point of view, the likes of Lee Hughes and Luke McCormack were imprisoned for manslaughter/drunk driving and then given pro contracts again; they were merely allowing a convict to train with them upon release, after a request from the PFA. I don't think they expected the media furore as those two incidents didn't have one nearly as big as this one has been. I can't help but wonder if the large media interest was mostly because it was an international week which don't have much going on for the journos to write about at the best of times. No doubt it would have gotten some coverage regardless but I think it might have gotten buried under premier league or champions league instead of a not very exciting qualifying campaign for England. the media interest has mostly been driven by the petition and then celebrities coming out and kicking off hasn't it? he's knackered in britain now like, just can't see anyone being willing to take a chance on him as they'll know the backlash that's coming their way if they do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 He'll go to Wigan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Blackpool I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 From Sheffield United's point of view, the likes of Lee Hughes and Luke McCormack were imprisoned for manslaughter/drunk driving and then given pro contracts again; they were merely allowing a convict to train with them upon release, after a request from the PFA. I don't think they expected the media furore as those two incidents didn't have one nearly as big as this one has been. I can't help but wonder if the large media interest was mostly because it was an international week which don't have much going on for the journos to write about at the best of times. No doubt it would have gotten some coverage regardless but I think it might have gotten buried under premier league or champions league instead of a not very exciting qualifying campaign for England. the media interest has mostly been driven by the petition and then celebrities coming out and kicking off hasn't it? he's knackered in britain now like, just can't see anyone being willing to take a chance on him as they'll know the backlash that's coming their way if they do maybe but I just feel with premier league and champions league going on it would have been more like "Ched Evans, Sheffield United, backlash and now lets talk about how Arsenal have failed this week or Manuel Pelegrini how long until he's sacked" ultimately those teams hoover up the news space but with (for England) the only interesting things going on being Rooney 100 caps and the Scotland game it leaves more space to cover it. Maybe I'm being overly cynical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it's a restraint of trade, and as has been previously mentioned other cases have shown that they were provided with another opportunity. If these other so called celebrities of which in my mind Ennis and her ilk aren't, (they're only athletes whom in a few years will be nobodies (Daley Thompson) as an example, where is he?, at a later stage in their lives are discovered to have been upto wrong doing, tax evasion, saville type, etc etc then a sportsmans career will have been destroyed by those who also may have skeletons, Malky Mckay being another potential issue. I would like to assume that these other personalities would hand over all of their earnings as they under the this present onslaught thats going on, wouldn't of been entitled to a career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 If he's done his time then football shouldn't turn its back on him. There's a huge problem in society with people unable to accept convicted criminals back into society, which leads to a huge problem with re-offending, that creates a pretty damn vicious cycle. If he's done his time as per the rules of society then he's as good and free as anyone else to be a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Not sure what to make of it really. Do feel a bit of sympathy for the club, who must be looking at the lack of grief Plymouth and Oldham got and thinking Why us?' On the flipside though they seem to market themselves as a particularly family friendly club (in the style of the mackems 'caring club' from the 90s) so fuck it you live by that, you die by it too. On one hand this decision does seems like an example of football having grown up since the aforementioned incidents and is taking it's role in society more seriously. On the other hand I find it a little uncomfortable with what has really prompted the decision, that it's a case of who shouts loudest /who is more famous gets what they want. We have a legal system in place to deal with issues of crime, punishment, rehabilitation yet it's like another symptom of today's celebrity obsessed x-factor style culture. Taken to its extreme, why even bother with legal rules and institutions, might as well just establish guilt based on the opinion of who has most twitter followers, or have a live tv vote to determine what punishment someone gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it's a restraint of trade horseshit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 http://biztaxlaw.about.com/od/glossaryr/g/restraintoftrade.htm Restraint of trade is a very old legal concept relating to the right of individuals to do business, or pursue a trade or profession, freely, without restraint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I though restraint of trade was a contract thing, where you make an agreement with a competitor or partner not to encroach on each others business, rather than something which applied to individuals as employees? Edit: Example definition from the Oxford Dictionary of Law Enforcement http://i.imgur.com/Dxv6uO3.png Doesn't seem like it applies here and doesn't seem like it's always illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it's a restraint of trade horseshit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Has just retired from comedy, not sure why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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