jdckelly Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Off topic but do any of the Irish posters here remember Eamonn Dunphy's outburst against Rod Liddle during Saipan? Dunphy: Do you know who wrote that article Bill? Bill: No I don't Eamonn Dunphy: I'll tell ya who wrote it Bill, Rod Liddle, he's the fella who ran away and left his wife for a young one Live on RTE wasn't he drunk at the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm waiting for a manager to come out and say "come on it wasn't proper rape was it?" But in all seriousness surely the law should distinguish between a violent rape and the circumstances Evans is under? I think a lot of people are seeing these headlines and assuming that he has raped someone in a dark alley rather than the grey area of drunken consent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Sits uneasy with me him just slotting back in for some reason. He is by all rights entitled to go back to that career but as someone who has worked in prisons and heard and read the background data in all types I find it unfair as a gut feeling. As a teacher it creates an interesting debate when I consider the implications it would have on my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Fiona Phillips says that once somebody has served their time they are entitled to return to work whether that's popular or not. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ched-evans-oldham-athletic-should-4950460 Is there anyone who hasn't had their say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This is bound to end up on Charlie brookers 2015 wipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm waiting for a manager to come out and say "come on it wasn't proper rape was it?" But in all seriousness surely the law should distinguish between a violent rape and the circumstances Evans is under? I think a lot of people are seeing these headlines and assuming that he has raped someone in a dark alley rather than the grey area of drunken consent. There would be some value in that distinction IMO, although I suppose you could argue that if someone has been sexed up against their will it's still pretty horrific. And good luck defining the different degrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Will someone delete the full stop at the end of the title, please? It's unnecessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Is it wrong of me to hope Stelling pushes Merson into voicing his opinion on the matter tomorrow afternoon? Stupid bastard wouldn't need the longest bit of rope to hang himself anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Sits uneasy with me him just slotting back in for some reason. He is by all rights entitled to go back to that career but as someone who has worked in prisons and heard and read the background data in all types I find it unfair as a gut feeling. As a teacher it creates an interesting debate when I consider the implications it would have on my life. He's not though, from £20k a week and any sponsorship that comes from being an international to £2k a week in the lower leagues being subsidised by his better halves dad. It's a different level of career available to him now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Interestingly brought up on question time last night , woman journalist on panel stated guy should be allowed to work at his chosen proffesion, labour mp says no should be sh*t on , woman in crowd said if he can't do that where can he work Sainsbury's or is that out of bounds also , so where could he work,woman labour mp shut up got no answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Sits uneasy with me him just slotting back in for some reason. He is by all rights entitled to go back to that career but as someone who has worked in prisons and heard and read the background data in all types I find it unfair as a gut feeling. As a teacher it creates an interesting debate when I consider the implications it would have on my life. He's not though, from £20k a week and any sponsorship that comes from being an international to £2k a week in the lower leagues being subsidised by his better halves dad. It's a different level of career available to him now Oh I know but I was just highlighting I don't know where to stand because I know people who have done less leave prison and struggle horrendously a and at one point he had the eye of several clubs. Rightly or wrongly, that's fallen through but still can't make my mind up. It's a tricky debate where it's easy to generalise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Is it wrong of me to hope Stelling pushes Merson into voicing his opinion on the matter tomorrow afternoon? Stupid bastard wouldn't need the longest bit of rope to hang himself anyway. Merson wasn't on Fantasy Football last night so unfortunately he may not be there today to give his opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Is it wrong of me to hope Stelling pushes Merson into voicing his opinion on the matter tomorrow afternoon? Stupid bastard wouldn't need the longest bit of rope to hang himself anyway. Might be discriminating against mentally disabled people that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 It's a free market for each company, be it football club, supermarket or random factory, to decide if the value of employing Evans is worth it when compared to a potential loss of sales, negative publicity, boycout (sic) of business. This is the free market working as it should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 What's that in reference to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 What's that in reference to? 70k signed a petition for Evans not to sign for Oldham. I assume they have shit attendances at their home games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 What's that in reference to? 70k signed a petition for Evans not to sign for Oldham. I assume they have shit attendances at their home games Sick of this bollocks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Exactly Exactly what? 70,000 people signed a petition, no sensible person said 70,000 Oldham fans signed a petition. More than just Oldham fans have an opinion on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I wouldn't sign him if I owned a football club at any level, but if any club wants to take the punt on him then they can deal with all the negativity and financial loss that follows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Exactly Exactly what? 70,000 people signed a petition, no sensible person said 70,000 Oldham fans signed a petition. More than just Oldham fans have an opinion on this. Yep. Shows them Oldham fans up for a) seemingly supporting a convicted rapist joining their club, b) assuming every single person who signed the petition is an Oldham fan and c) being thick as pig shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlemagnifique Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Exactly Exactly what? 70,000 people signed a petition, no sensible person said 70,000 Oldham fans signed a petition. More than just Oldham fans have an opinion on this. Yep. Shows them Oldham fans up for a) seemingly supporting a convicted rapist joining their club, b) assuming every single person who signed the petition is an Oldham fan and c) being thick as pig shit a) well yes, that does seem to be the point b) not really, the point is that 70,000 people not connected with the club in any meaningful way signed the petition c) they weren't the ones misinterpreting a 4 word banner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are 70,000 people not allowed their say in what a sports personality does after being convicted of rape? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlemagnifique Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 They clearly are, however the banner is expressing one group of people's upset at another group's interference; not their disbelief that all the people on a petition haven't shown up to their ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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