Izakaya Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Decky said: Away and third tops posted by DH Gate for me. Away top was ordered when it was announced. Anyone wants a guide on how to get top tier rep trainers from Taobao/Weidian give me a shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, christ said: Do you know how the world works? I know that generally all parties are looking for the best deal financially and that arranging something like this with an entire season of football to be played doesn't seem like a particularly sensible idea when we consider the wide range of possible outcomes that we could see this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 What's wrong with Adidas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: What's wrong with Adidas? Just meh designs of recent for me. Everything else will be otherworldly compared to castore though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Newcastle wearing Adidas feels very right and on balance I would be pro that switch, but agree re the nervousness about the quality of their designs recently. There are some canny ones though; worst offenders this season are those Arsenal and ManU aways. I'm not fundamentally against incorporating a sort of pattern into the stripes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Anyone wants a guide on how to get top tier rep trainers from Taobao/Weidian give me a shout. That's all these DHgate sellers are, middlemen buying from weidian that's how they take so long to ship you'll probably get the same batch half price on there. Suppose for the ease and the price most people are happy enough to pay for DHgate though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I know that generally all parties are looking for the best deal financially and that arranging something like this with an entire season of football to be played doesn't seem like a particularly sensible idea when we consider the wide range of possible outcomes that we could see this season. Scenarios are built into contracts to reflect achievements at the end of each season. Have a look at the £900m deal Man U and Adidas have just agreed, extra bunce if they do well, reduced bunce if they miss out on Champs League and so on Also a decent manufacturer would prefer to avoid signing a contract in early 2024 to then have shirts designed, signed off, manufactured and in the distribution network in less than 6 months. They ideally want to do design work 24 months ahead if possible. And anyhow, the Premier League will cap our maximum shirt deal at their perceived “fair value” for the next few years anyway, so probably very little we can gain financially by holding out Edited August 3, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Yorkie said: worst offenders this season are those Arsenal and ManU aways This is one of the best, most ridiculous kits of the season. Pretty much everything else they’ve put out this season though is absolutely trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, cubaricho said: This is one of the best, most ridiculous kits of the season. Pretty much everything else they’ve put out this season though is absolutely trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, Jaqen said: That's all these DHgate sellers are, middlemen buying from weidian that's how they take so long to ship you'll probably get the same batch half price on there. Suppose for the ease and the price most people are happy enough to pay for DHgate though. DHgate shops sell the lowest tier reps but charge high tier costs. You can definitely get any 1:1 Jordans on Weidian for less than any DHgate sellers. The only issue is having to go through an agent, and the higher shipping costs which means you're better off buying a few pairs rather than just one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: This is one of the best, most ridiculous kits of the season. Pretty much everything else they’ve put out this season though is absolutely trash. Didn't realise even the socks looks wonky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 We'll get at least one year of focused, non-template stuff from them imo, which if Arsenal is anything to go by means them harking back to 95/96 and everyone shitting their legs off over the new grandad collar modern fit top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: We'll get at least one year of focused, non-template stuff from them imo, which if Arsenal is anything to go by means them harking back to 95/96 and everyone shitting their legs off over the new grandad collar modern fit top All they need to do is recreate Juventus' 2017-18 shirt and they'll sell a ridiculous amount. They'll probably re-release old stuff such as away tops and training wear like they've done for Arsenal's 1989-90 and 1993-94 stuff. Thing is if they do that, my net worth shrinks by over a half given the original stuff I have now. Edited August 3, 2023 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Ahhh was hoping to get the Adidas ITK swoop. Bringing back the nostalgia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) Asked a 2nd sportswear industry sauce who also confirmed they’ve heard the Adidas deal is done That persons assumption is that we’d be on template Edited August 4, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Asked a 2nd sportswear industry sauce who also confirmed they’ve heard the Adidas deal is done That persons assumption is that we’d be on template Any idea how much they are paying us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Any idea how much they are paying us? Nope. One sauce will definitely know but wouldn’t be inclined to say. The other sauce wouldn’t have any financial info I’d assume it’d be close to max “fair value” for a lower table side with no global reach as that’s how the PL wants to categorise and restrict us But that’s just me speculating about the £’s Edited August 4, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: Nope. One sauce will definitely know but wouldn’t be inclined to say. The other sauce wouldn’t have any financial info I’d assume it’d be close to max “fair value” for a lower table side with no global reach as that’s how the PL wants to categorise and restrict us But that’s just me speculating about the £’s America says hi ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Just now, bobbydazzla said: Nope. One sauce will definitely know but wouldn’t be inclined to say. The other sauce wouldn’t have any financial info I’d assume it’d be close to max “fair value” for a lower table side with no global reach as that’s how the PL wants to categorise and restrict us But that’s just me speculating about the £’s I’d be surprised if it’s so low given the recent deals. Our deals with Sela and Noon us just behind the sky 6 in terms of ranking. also depends on the structure I guess too. (Do we go for a smaller up front amount and take a bigger split of sales for example). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Also, isn’t this fair market value only for related party deals? PIF have no influence over adidas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) I’m not clued up on the fair value rules for shirt makers but if we rocked up with a £700m 10 year Adidas deal am sure there’d be hell on from Liverpool & Tottenham and we’d probably get a massive points deduction from the PL Edited August 4, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: I’m not sure on the fair value rules but if we rocked up with a £700m 10 year Adidas deal am sure there’d be hell on from Liverpool & Tottenham and we’d probably get a points deduction from the PL Yeah I can’t remember the rules exactly but if I he rule only relates to related companies spurs and scouse could only cry. Anyways these companies are charities and we won’t be getting so much. it’s a shame a TF managed to waste the interview with Silverstone but not asking him much related to commercial stuff. I would like to know why we don’t have a training ground sponsor or a training gear sponsor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) Am sure there’ll be more sponsors rolling in. From what I can gather about Commercial Director contracts they typically get commission from their club every time a new sponsor signs up. So it’s in their personal interest as well as the clubs Heard a story that one CD from a big club was looking into the possibility of doing a deal where 3 different sportswear brands made different elements of the team kit. As that meant 3x rather than 1x commission for him. Their established kit maker got wind and stopped it At the end of the day these modern CD’s are just money and career motivated, if Silverstone doesn’t get us a training kit sponsor etc etc then he’s damaging his career and both him and the club are losing out on relatively easy money given how few sponsors we have currently vs other clubs Edited August 4, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Am sure there’ll be more sponsors rolling in. From what I can gather about Commercial Director contracts they typically get commission from their club every time a new sponsor signs up. So it’s in their personal interest as well as the clubs Heard a story that one CD from a big club was looking into the possibility of doing a deal where 3 different sportswear brands made different elements of the team kit. As that meant 3x rather than 1x commission for him. Their established kit maker got wind and stopped it At the end of the day these modern CD’s are just money and career motivated, if Silverstone doesn’t get us a training kit sponsor etc etc then he’s damaging his career and both him and the club are losing out on relatively easy money given how few sponsors we have currently vs other clubs 3 kit manufacturers No change any sportswear manufacturer would sign an agreement allowing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, r0cafella said: 3 kit manufacturers No change any sportswear manufacturer would sign an agreement allowing that. I was told his groundbreaking master plan would have been along the lines of going to Adidas for shirts, Nike for shorts, Puma for socks That’s just me making up the brands but you get the gist Edited August 4, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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