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[Deuce]

Fuck off, man. The match going fans aren't a "big part of the problem" whatsoever. The fans are the reason the clubs exists enough for you to support. Dragged through many many generations.

 

People who blame the fans are as thick as those who think Ashley's doing a good job. There's no difference. Both completely missing the true issue.

 

Yes, the few fans who boo down those who aren't happy/protesting are aresholes. But so are those who boo down all of the matchday goers. It's ridiculous and so gullible to fall into that trap. Which is set by the last 8 or 9 years.

 

Wallsendmag...only the other day you said you were getting a season ticket next year if Rafa stays. Is that not you "lining pockets"?

 

In fact in the unlikely event he remains in charge for next season I will buy a season ticket again but there would have been no chance of that if we'd have stayed up but brought in a different manager.

 

[Stifler]

I agree with Poot here. Slagging fans off who go is taking it too far. Plenty of fans who still go let the owners know what they think. Plenty of them are prepared to take part in mass protests, as seen with Spurs and Swansea last season. I'm actually fed up of fans saying 'I want us to drop down the divisions until Ashley's leaves and then I'll go back', but the majority of them are the ones who if that happened won't go because we have shit footballers, playing in a league full of shit quality football. A lot of those people are the ones who have always been sitting watching matches at home, blame the regime, blame ticket prices, blame the lack of quality, etc, all been used as an excuse not to go. There have been plenty of fans who have packed it in, it has been too much for them, and fair enough to them. The thing is though the majority of them arn't ones who are slagging off those who still go, they are just getting on with it themselves.

[Wullie]

Cardiff organised their boycott for an FA Cup match - 4000 turned up when their typical attendance is mid 20s. They'd been turning up for years with protests and marches to no effect. As soon as the threat of people voting with their feet emerged - bam, here's your blue back. Voting with your feet/wallet is the only power we have as fans.

 

Not for a second suggesting it will be quick or easy like that but the idea he's going to sell up while his stadium is full as opposed to it being empty is ludicrous. Why would he? His stadium being full is a vote of confidence.

[Carlito]

I agree with Poot here. Slagging fans off who go is taking it too far. Plenty of fans who still go let the owners know what they think. Plenty of them are prepared to take part in mass protests, as seen with Spurs and Swansea last season. I'm actually fed up of fans saying 'I want us to drop down the divisions until Ashley's leaves and then I'll go back', but the majority of them are the ones who if that happened won't go because we have s*** footballers, playing in a league full of s*** quality football. A lot of those people are the ones who have always been sitting watching matches at home, blame the regime, blame ticket prices, blame the lack of quality, etc, all been used as an excuse not to go. There have been plenty of fans who have packed it in, it has been too much for them, and fair enough to them. The thing is though the majority of them arn't ones who are slagging off those who still go, they are just getting on with it themselves.

 

Not necessarily slagging off the ones who go, it's the ones who go and don't make themselves heard. Not only that but they have a go at the people who do.

[Stifler]

I agree with Poot here. Slagging fans off who go is taking it too far. Plenty of fans who still go let the owners know what they think. Plenty of them are prepared to take part in mass protests, as seen with Spurs and Swansea last season. I'm actually fed up of fans saying 'I want us to drop down the divisions until Ashley's leaves and then I'll go back', but the majority of them are the ones who if that happened won't go because we have s*** footballers, playing in a league full of s*** quality football. A lot of those people are the ones who have always been sitting watching matches at home, blame the regime, blame ticket prices, blame the lack of quality, etc, all been used as an excuse not to go. There have been plenty of fans who have packed it in, it has been too much for them, and fair enough to them. The thing is though the majority of them arn't ones who are slagging off those who still go, they are just getting on with it themselves.

 

Not necessarily slagging off the ones who go, it's the ones who go and don't make themselves heard. Not only that but they have a go at the people who do.

Those people are in the vast minority. They are well outnumbered by those who have never went, never will go, and slams those who do.

[Wallsendmag]

f*** off, man. The match going fans aren't a "big part of the problem" whatsoever. The fans are the reason the clubs exists enough for you to support. Dragged through many many generations.

 

People who blame the fans are as thick as those who think Ashley's doing a good job. There's no difference. Both completely missing the true issue.

 

Yes, the few fans who boo down those who aren't happy/protesting are aresholes. But so are those who boo down all of the matchday goers. It's ridiculous and so gullible to fall into that trap. Which is set by the last 8 or 9 years.

 

Wallsendmag...only the other day you said you were getting a season ticket next year if Rafa stays. Is that not you "lining pockets"?

 

In fact in the unlikely event he remains in charge for next season I will buy a season ticket again but there would have been no chance of that if we'd have stayed up but brought in a different manager.

 

If Benitez can not only be persuaded to stay but is also given the proper resources to manage the team and the club to an extent in his own way then I'll go back again because if not I might as well walk away and be done with NUFC for good because other than Ashley leaving it's as good as it's going to get. He isn't going to leave though because our fanbase wasn't up to the fight and 50,000 people have continued to go along and sit on their hands with no resistance. If you can't see how that wasn't part of the problem you're thick as pig sh*t.

 

I have no problem with you wanting to go back, regardless if Ashley is there or not, because you might see good football and "it's as good as it's going to get". But you're a massive f***ing hypocrite and are exactly what you're slagging others off for.

 

No I'm not. The fans, dwindling numbers of them I admit and of which I was one of who went, or still go along and have given Ashley stick I respect. The vast majority though have just sat there and taken all the sh*t that's been thrown at them. They are the ones who have no right of complaint but they are two separate entities. I have respect for those who still go along and who have tried to force change but they've been let down by the majority who step inside that ground.

[Carlito]

I agree with Poot here. Slagging fans off who go is taking it too far. Plenty of fans who still go let the owners know what they think. Plenty of them are prepared to take part in mass protests, as seen with Spurs and Swansea last season. I'm actually fed up of fans saying 'I want us to drop down the divisions until Ashley's leaves and then I'll go back', but the majority of them are the ones who if that happened won't go because we have s*** footballers, playing in a league full of s*** quality football. A lot of those people are the ones who have always been sitting watching matches at home, blame the regime, blame ticket prices, blame the lack of quality, etc, all been used as an excuse not to go. There have been plenty of fans who have packed it in, it has been too much for them, and fair enough to them. The thing is though the majority of them arn't ones who are slagging off those who still go, they are just getting on with it themselves.

 

Not necessarily slagging off the ones who go, it's the ones who go and don't make themselves heard. Not only that but they have a go at the people who do.

Those people are in the vast minority. They are well outnumbered by those who have never went, never will go, and slams those who do.

 

Gotta disagree there. Look at how many fans were giving other sections stick for the planned walk out against Hull, and how many actually left. Same goes for the SackPardew campaign getting stick because it was "disrupting the team" or "Pardew is doing a good job". A lot of fans have been conditioned to think speaking out against anything is over-expectant.

[Wullie]

Cardiff organised their boycott for an FA Cup match - 4000 turned up when their typical attendance is mid 20s. They'd been turning up for years with protests and marches to no effect. As soon as the threat of people voting with their feet emerged - bam, here's your blue back. Voting with your feet/wallet is the only power we have as fans.

 

Not for a second suggesting it will be quick or easy like that but the idea he's going to sell up while his stadium is full as opposed to it being empty is ludicrous. Why would he? His stadium being full is a vote of confidence.

 

No one has answered the question yet of why he would sell if the stadium was empty? This is Mike Ashley we're talking about.

 

Is he more likely (not 'would sell', nobody's psychic) to sell if he's receiving £25m a season or if he's not receiving it? If the only customer base he has all tell him they won't be consuming his product at all from now on - which then affects the advertising potential and the chances of the team being promoted back to the big money league?

 

Is this a serious question?

 

Ashley has more than enough money to cut his losses - he's lost massive money a few times gambling on shares. I don't believe getting his money back or even making a profit is his main priority, anything he'll make on the club is pocket change. The only way to get him to sell (if such a thing can be done) is to create a situation where owning NUFC is simply not worth his time/effort/money anymore - not worth it for his company's advertising, not worth it financially in terms of TV/matchday/merchandising income. That's when he'll cut and run imo, not when the club is doing 'well' (i.e. in the PL).

[ilikenewcastle]

I think it's obvious that some sort of mass boycott is definitely worth a try, and I really do think sustained action would have an effect.

 

People who doubt the effectiveness of any potential boycott need to be honest and admit they just like going to matches.

 

As has been suggested, too many of our fans are obsessed with our mad and loyal reputation and frankly, wouldn't give a s**t if we were in League 2.

[Robster]

I'm saying that mass boycotting will only really likely see us fall further from grace (in my opinion).

And that's exactly why, eventually, Ashley would sell up.

[Wullie]

Blown our chances of ever getting back to the PL? Howay man, we're not Bournemouth.

 

Course there's no guarantee of what the next owners will do. That is not a reason to stick with Ashley and you know it. How bad does it have to get before this will stop being put forward as a reason not to rock the boat?

 

And you keep saying the fans are depriving themselves of enjoyment. I packed in my ST two years ago and I haven't regretted it for a single second. What enjoyment have I missed in that time that would have been worth £2k to my household?

[Wullie]

Blown our chances of ever getting back to the PL? Howay man, we're not Bournemouth.

 

Course there's no guarantee of what the next owners will do. That is not a reason to stick with Ashley and you know it. How bad does it have to get before this will stop being put forward as a reason not to rock the boat?

 

And you keep saying the fans are depriving themselves of enjoyment. I packed in my ST two years ago and I haven't regretted it for a single second. What enjoyment have I missed in that time that would have been worth £2k to my household?

 

I've been reading your posts since waaay before Ashley bought the club. You didn't seem to get much enjoyment out of it back then either.

 

We can't all be the type of people who delude themselves that everything's briliant and absolutely insist that Steve McClaren is the perfect man for the job. I've generally been down on the club because we've been absolute shit for years, under both owners. Not sure why I should have to justify myself where that's concerned. FWIW I was a big supporter of Hughton and Keegan and the bloke you increasingly seem to want to keep around on a "better the devil you know" basis fucked them both off.

[Wullie]

Blown our chances of ever getting back to the PL? Howay man, we're not Bournemouth.

 

Course there's no guarantee of what the next owners will do. That is not a reason to stick with Ashley and you know it. How bad does it have to get before this will stop being put forward as a reason not to rock the boat?

 

And you keep saying the fans are depriving themselves of enjoyment. I packed in my ST two years ago and I haven't regretted it for a single second. What enjoyment have I missed in that time that would have been worth £2k to my household?

 

I've been reading your posts since waaay before Ashley bought the club. You didn't seem to get much enjoyment out of it back then either.

 

We can't all be the type of people who delude themselves that everything's briliant and absolutely insist that Steve McClaren is the perfect man for the job. I've generally been down on the club because we've been absolute s*** for years, under both owners. Not sure why I should have to justify myself where that's concerned. FWIW I was a big supporter of Hughton and Keegan and the bloke you increasingly seem to want to keep around on a "better the devil you know" basis f***ed them both off.

 

I don't know how many times I have to say it. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST the notion of protesting.

 

I just personally believe that...

 

A) boycotting is the wrong way to go.

B) as I've said over and over again, maybe going for the "low hanging fruit"... More realistic protests, more realistic aims etc might be the way to go. If they work, then look into whether you can go further (or need to go further).

C) putting all your eggs into the notion that he'll pack up and leave if we don't go to the games for a bit seems a bit fanciful to me (based on all I've been told).

D) most importantly, don't fucking talk down about other supporters if they don't share your desire to stay away. Not everyone has fallen out of love with NUFC as you say you have.

 

Maybe not but from what I can hear when I watch the games, none of them seem in the slightest bit arsed about the state of the club. 90 minutes of either silence or mild grumbling and a boo at full time if they're still there. My advice to them would be to find themselves something better to do on a Saturday and it'll cleanse their conscience knowing they're not funding it. Certainly did for me.

[Heron]

We're all hypocrites unfortunately.

[BONTEMPI]

If Rafa doesn't stay then boycotting is the right way to go in the Championship as it will be more effective because of the lack of TV revenue.

 

The only thing that hurts this man is in the pocket.

[Guest antz1uk]

If Rafa stays then it's the best outcome we could have possibly wanted apart from Ashley selling up, he isn't going to do that any time soon. I have had my say on not going and i'm loathed to support the current set up (Pre Benitez) however...

 

I spoke with my dad just last night, we used to have season tickets together for about 15 year then we both gave it up, partially as it was terrible, lost that connection along with gettingmarried, having the little one, work commitments and just generally other stuff that ended up making it not worth it. Well my son is now 15, loves going and for the first time since Ashley came in, my dad who absolutely despises him has said he'll get a season ticket if Rafa stays. That's good enough for me, for 3 generations of fans to go to the match again, father with his grandson, who in only a couple of years will be able to enjoy a pint before the match, proper bond and have some great football craic then i'm sold. And I was one of these that was/still is anti-Ashley. but this looks like it could be a chance for some major shift in change and hopefully a good journey back to the Premier league again. I enjoyed the championship last time and we should see more wins than losses so for me it's a no brainer.

[HawK]

If Rafa stays then it's the best outcome we could have possibly wanted apart from Ashley selling up, he isn't going to do that any time soon. I have had my say on not going and i'm loathed to support the current set up (Pre Benitez) however...

 

I spoke with my dad just last night, we used to have season tickets together for about 15 year then we both gave it up, partially as it was terrible, lost that connection along with gettingmarried, having the little one, work commitments and just generally other stuff that ended up making it not worth it. Well my son is now 15, loves going and for the first time since Ashley came in, my dad who absolutely despises him has said he'll get a season ticket if Rafa stays. That's good enough for me, for 3 generations of fans to go to the match again, father with his grandson, who in only a couple of years will be able to enjoy a pint before the match, proper bond and have some great football craic then i'm sold. And I was one of these that was/still is anti-Ashley. but this looks like it could be a chance for some major shift in change and hopefully a good journey back to the Premier league again. I enjoyed the championship last time and we should see more wins than losses so for me it's a no brainer.

 

I have to agree with this - it's very much a cut-your-losses situation.

 

I think that yes Ashley is public enemy no.1, but with Rafa we've got a chance of enjoying ourselves again.

[Darth Crooks]

Completely get that. I just fear another false dawn for the obvious reasons. Nothing comes of being under Mike Ashley.

[Guest antz1uk]

Completely get that. I just fear another false dawn for the obvious reasons. Nothing comes of being under Mike Ashley.

 

I know, even as I write it, sign for a season ticket.. I can feel myself thinking.... he's just going to beat me up again 

[HawK]

Completely get that. I just fear another false dawn for the obvious reasons. Nothing comes of being under Mike Ashley.

 

I know, even as I write it, sign for a season ticket.. I can feel myself thinking.... he's just going to beat me up again 

 

ffs Rafa is basically like a new watch..

 

 

 

"It's alright love, I love you, see I bought you a new watch"

 

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-57/

 

Rangers have terminated the agreement with Ashley's IP subsidiary company.

 

After the announcement Sport Direct Sports Direct Shares have crashed in the last hour.

 

Down 6.80 per share (1.83%).

 

On a personal level, due to his shareholding, Ashley has lost over £25million this morning.

 

Shame.

[Lotus]

Seriously struggle to believe this chump won't screw Benitez around. He's done it to everybody else without exception. As if he'd change.

[Guest neesy111]

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-57/

 

Rangers have terminated the agreement with Ashley's IP subsidiary company.

 

After the announcement Sport Direct Sports Direct Shares have crashed in the last hour.

 

Down 6.80 per share (1.83%).

 

On a personal level, due to his shareholding, Ashley has lost over £25million this morning.

 

Shame.

 

1.83% is not crashed ffs.

[SEMTEX]

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-57/

 

Rangers have terminated the agreement with Ashley's IP subsidiary company.

 

After the announcement Sport Direct Sports Direct Shares have crashed in the last hour.

 

Down 6.80 per share (1.83%).

 

On a personal level, due to his shareholding, Ashley has lost over £25million this morning.

 

Shame.

 

CRIPPLING stock market crash there

 

 

[Kanj]