SEMTEX Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The same could be said for any NUFC fan who has Sky. Our club takes in more from Sky money than it does from season ticket sales, by a long way. They should be ashamed! Yes. That is exactly the same. Cheers for helping make a change Enjoy the era of Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The same could be said for any NUFC fan who has Sky. Our club takes in more from Sky money than it does from season ticket sales, by a long way. They should be ashamed! Yes. That is exactly the same. Cheers for helping make a change Enjoy the era of Mike. Cracking reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The same could be said for any NUFC fan who has Sky. Our club takes in more from Sky money than it does from season ticket sales, by a long way. They should be ashamed! Yes. That is exactly the same. Cheers for helping make a change Enjoy the era of Mike. Cracking reply. The way I see it no-one in their right minds could be satisfied with 8 years of Ashley's ownership for the countless reasons we all know about so no point reiterating. If you accept that you've got 2 options as a fan surely? Stop paying him money or keep paying him money and actively try to force the cunt out of the club from your position 'on the inside'. The probably we have is that barely anyone is willing to do the second one so they're essentially forfeiting their status as supporters of NUFC and becoming fans of football or just customers of the PL and Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Like I've always said though, with Sky money being so high these days, people stop going to the game will not make as big a impact as people think it will. If your going to criticise people for paying money to go to the game, surely the same stance must be held against those who buy sky which in turn, ends up in Ashley's pocket. If it wasn't for Sky, then yes, people not going to the game would make a massive difference financially to The club/Ashley. The main reason Ashley is still here is due to the money he gets from Sky/BT etc not because of money made from ticket sales, so surely those who pay for Sky/BT are contributing to "the decline of the club" as much as some believe matchday goers are, if not more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Like I've always said though, with Sky money being so high these days, people stop going to the game will not make as big a impact as people think it will. If your going to criticise people for paying money to go to the game, surely the same stance must be held against those who buy sky which in turn, ends up in Ashley's pocket. If it wasn't for Sky, then yes, people not going to the game would make a massive difference financially to The club/Ashley. The main reason Ashley is still here is due to the money he gets from Sky/BT etc not because of money made from ticket sales, so surely those who pay for Sky/BT are contributing to "the decline of the club" as much as some believe matchday goers are, if not more? Somehow you've made the pertinent point about Ashley yet are somehow still ignoring it, and it's this: he is different from every other owner in the league because he has no interest in the sporting side of the game, his only interest is advertising his shop which people turning up in their tens of thousands allows him to do while treating said customers with the utmost contempt. I could be wrong like but is there another owner operating in this way in the league? We've had shit owners before, will have again, and the scenario you've described above applies to every club in the PL but they're not rotting away from the inside because they're at least making a fist at succeeding on the pitch. We've had that taken away from us, the entire reason for the existence of the club has gone - the desire to win - and that is reflected in the atmosphere or lack of in the stadium. Look at Sunderland, they're in worse shape than us but that's largely due to ineptitude not intent, I can reluctantly accept ineptitude because it can change, but his intent is never going to change and there is the death of hope. That is why it's fucking stupid to pay him money, because he's figuratively laughing in your face every time you enter the stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 [move]JUST STOP GOING[/move] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The counter argument about sky would also hold more weight if he didn't shit his pants at the first seriously organised protest. It got to them and if you deny it( you can of course debate the extent) then you are somewhat in denial. And I don't see what being from the area has to do with it really. Like I said earlier, it costs me a small fortune to attend a single home game and I used to do it several times a season; so my time and money were notably commited. Like you and others who attend more regularly. Why, why then should a pack of apathetic, rich and uncaring cartel of arseholes be given so much leeway and our time and money? There's no justification other than meaning well or super fandom in some cases. It's not what anyone 'wants' but it's a compelling and valid argument IMO. Picking holes in it based on geography and attendance is irrelevant because of so many other variables. There are people who cross continents to attend just for a Saturday or drive twice as far as I would from London. It's not nice to criticise others or hear comments aimed at you but the debate can't and shouldn't be ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 [move]JUST STOP GOING[/move] This - in spades....an empty, or partially empty stadium would embarrass even this rhino-skinned con-man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Boggles my mind that people can have so few principles. "This rich cunt is destroying something I care about deeply. But I hear he has another income stream and may still be rich if I stop paying him. With that in mind, I might as well continue to pay him large sums indefinitely while he laughs in my face." My money would be an irrelevance to Mike Ashley but to me it's not. So why the fuck would I give someone I hate as much as anyone on Earth huge chunks of it? How much a consistently empty St James' Park would affect him is up for debate - my view is that if you think it wouldn't bother him, then you've not been paying anywhere near enough attention to the man. But on a personal level, have some fucking self respect ffs. He's knocking seven shades of shit out of you every night but you're still putting his tea on the table. Quite an irony in asking the players to show fight against adversity when there's absolutely zero in the stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Quite an irony in asking the players to show fight against adversity when there's absolutely zero in the stands. good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Quite an irony in asking the players to show fight against adversity when there's absolutely zero in the stands. good point To be fair there's plenty of fight in the stands, like. Standing up waving you fists around and shouting at 20 minute intervals then storming off shaking your head when you go 3-0 down late on against Leicester City will surely put Ashley in his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. He does have a point, I lived 2 miles from the ground and went to every game, I now live 9 miles away and have stopped going. Similar. I live 4 miles from the ground and had a ST for 24 years dating back to the Ardiles era. Actually went from 1991-2002 without missing a single home game, Anglo Italian Cups, league cups, daft pre season games, I never missed one. Cancelled my ticket in the summer and I've never been to a single game this season. As has been rightly said on here though the ground is no longer filled with supporters. It's now full of families who go for a day out because it's trendy to watch the Premier League, tourists, and hen pecked blokes who see it as a way to get away from the wife for a few hours, hence the atmosphere now being non existent and all the anger that should be aimed at Ashley and his merry men not materialising because those that still don't go either a) don't have it in them or b) aren't really bothered - they are just happy to be out the house doing something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. I don't have Sky and pied off my ST last season. I hope you enjoyed sitting in silence at the game, in the cold, at the weekend dribbling on your Colback laden Wonga top applauding Vardy when he scored past us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Got rid of both my ST and longstanding Sky subscription. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. Dont and have never paid for Sky and quit going in 2010 after 15 years season ticket. Can we still have a go at you now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. Perhaps you can't but paying for Sky Sports coverage and paying money into Mike Ashley's pockets are two different things entirely. Only you are giving them parity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. I don't have Sky and pied off my ST last season. I hope you enjoyed sitting in silence at the game, in the cold, at the weekend dribbling on your Colback laden Wonga top applauding Vardy when he scored past us. I hope you enjoyed your weekend sitting on here talking about the game. Top weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. I don't have Sky and pied off my ST last season. I hope you enjoyed sitting in silence at the game, in the cold, at the weekend dribbling on your Colback laden Wonga top applauding Vardy when he scored past us. I hope you enjoyed your weekend sitting on here talking about the game. Top weekend. I did, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. Dont and have never paid for Sky and quit going in 2010 after 15 years season ticket. Can we still have a go at you now? Do what you want mate, it's words on a screen which i may or may not read. Either way, i won't lose any sleep tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. Dont and have never paid for Sky and quit going in 2010 after 15 years season ticket. Can we still have a go at you now? Do what you want mate, it's words on a screen which i may or may not read. Either way, i won't lose any sleep tonight. Dont expect you to lose sleep given you clearly dont care that your actions are helping to ruin the club, us asking you to see sense is always going to be a losing battle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'm costing Ashley millions by watching snide Sky Sports online for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Glad to hear everyone had good weekends! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. Dont and have never paid for Sky and quit going in 2010 after 15 years season ticket. Can we still have a go at you now? Do what you want mate, it's words on a screen which i may or may not read. Either way, i won't lose any sleep tonight. Dont expect you to lose sleep given you clearly dont care that your actions are helping to ruin the club, us asking you to see sense is always going to be a losing battle Yeah, you're right. Hate this club me! Keep making stories up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Got rid of ST when we were relegated, waited to see if he learned his lesson. Which he didn't. Cancelled sky a few months back but hadn't had sky sports for a very long time anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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