Kimbo Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. We should pay the fine when FIFA settle up for the losses incurred by the FA as a result of the proven, industrial-scale corruption surrounding the 2018 and 2022 World Cup venue 'wins'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. We should pay the fine when FIFA settle up for the losses incurred by the FA as a result of the proven, industrial-scale corruption surrounding the 2018 and 2022 World Cup venue 'wins'. By losses you mean the fancy handbags we bought for the delegates wives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Should just withdraw from all FIFA events. Fuck em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Should just withdraw from all FIFA events. Fuck em. One way to avoid embarrassment I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Should just withdraw from all FIFA events. Fuck em. One way to avoid embarrassment I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. We should pay the fine when FIFA settle up for the losses incurred by the FA as a result of the proven, industrial-scale corruption surrounding the 2018 and 2022 World Cup venue 'wins'. By losses you mean the fancy handbags we bought for the delegates wives? No, I mean the £14m total to prepare the bid that was fixed. It was the FA's refusal to pay proper bribes that meant we were never in the running. The bags obviously didn't make much difference when FIFA wanted bribes in the tens of millions of dollars for their votes, so yes, we'll have the bags back, or their monetary equivalent, and send that and another large donation to the Earl Haig fund; and the remaining £13,900,000+ also, and decide what to do with that as and when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. We should pay the fine when FIFA settle up for the losses incurred by the FA as a result of the proven, industrial-scale corruption surrounding the 2018 and 2022 World Cup venue 'wins'. By losses you mean the fancy handbags we bought for the delegates wives? Also the watch that we had to give back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. We should pay the fine when FIFA settle up for the losses incurred by the FA as a result of the proven, industrial-scale corruption surrounding the 2018 and 2022 World Cup venue 'wins'. By losses you mean the fancy handbags we bought for the delegates wives? Also the watch that we had to give back Not sure the watches Brazil - and delegates were ordered to return, in an attempt to convince people FIFA is not still uterly corrupt - gave out for WC 2014 are relevant here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. We should pay the fine when FIFA settle up for the losses incurred by the FA as a result of the proven, industrial-scale corruption surrounding the 2018 and 2022 World Cup venue 'wins'. By losses you mean the fancy handbags we bought for the delegates wives? Also the watch that we had to give back Not sure the watches Brazil - and delegates were ordered to return, in an attempt to convince people FIFA is not still uterly corrupt - gave out for WC 2014 are relevant here. Course they are can't attack Fifa for being corrupt when Greg took his watch and refused for ages to give it back. We are part of the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 FIFA recognising Kosovo is far more of a political statement than people wearing poppies on their shirt, the hypocritical cunts. They've got some brass neck mind, I'll give them that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 It's a load of bollocks really. As much as I agree with anyone's right not to wear the poppy, and find the whole annual circus surrounding it tedious, I think if people want to wear it they also should be able to. I know anything can mean different things to different people, but the poppy as a political symbol is a world away from shitcunts like Argentina holding up banners in support of invading the Falklands before kick-off. The problem I'd imagine from FIFA's perspective is if you allow one, it's harder not to allow another and it would be a slippery slope. If we want the slightest chance of hosting a world cup in our lifetimes the best thing is to take the fine and not kick up a fuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 If we are proud to display the poppy we should be proud to pay the fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Nah we should just tell them to fuck off like, paying a fine is as good as admitting wrong doing and there hasn't been any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. problem for me anyway this time around is the precedent had already been set in 2011 (?) when they were allowed to wear armbands with it, so why is one instance okay and not the other? As for Ireland and the Easter Rising thing I just find it funny that if that MP hadn't have pointed it FIFA would have never noticed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I never really got the big deal over this, FIFA have a very understandable policy designed to keep political fucknuttery out of football, and it's up to countries whether they obey the rule or take a fine. If it's really as important as so many think it is to wear the poppy then you take the fine and move on. problem for me anyway this time around is the precedent had already been set in 2011 (?) when they were allowed to wear armbands with it, so why is one instance okay and not the other? As for Ireland and the Easter Rising thing I just find it funny that if that MP hadn't have pointed it FIFA would have never noticed. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/8879577/Fifa-backs-down-and-allow-England-players-to-wear-poppies-on-black-armband-against-Spain.html After a day of extraordinary interventions, including both Prince William and Prime Minister David Cameron writing to Fifa asking that the players’ shirts be embroidered with poppies, world football’s governing body relented on its previously unshakeable stance. Up until then Fifa had made clear, despite protestations from the FA, that it considered placing a poppy on a player’s shirt as contravening its rules banning political, religious and commercial messages. It is understood that despite the high-level interventions - the Duke of Cambridge is also president of the FA and wrote in that capacity - it was a discussion between Conservative MP Chris Heaton-Harris and Fifa general secretary Jérôme Valcke that helped broker a deal. Heaton-Harris is a relatively new MP, elected to the Daventry seat last year, and was previously a member of the European Parliament, where he struck up an acquaintance with Valcke, who has been handling the issue for Fifa. Heaton-Harris was previously president of the Sports Intergroup, a group of 40 MEPs who have an interest in sport. It is believed it was his suggestion to allow the poppies on the armbands with Valcke then authorising the move. Probably took a bung tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 The fa's need to ask for a full breakdown of where the fine money will be put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 That's not how fines work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I've never understood why people get so worked up about the poppy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 That's not how fines work. In normal circumstances I agree but have been fined by one of the most corrupt organisations ever I think we have a right to know where the money is going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 A situation where they're all dicks, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Further ruining the World Cup from 2026 seems to be high on the agenda in the next couple of days. Quite a lot of journo's reporting they reckon it'll be 48 teams and potentially loads of penalty shootouts if games are draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Groups of 3 with 2 going through Sounds very fair on the team not playing the final game and all. Penalties in the group games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 They really need to find a way to sack FIFA somehow like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Fifa should donate the fine to the Poppy Appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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