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I have to say as far as Southgate is concerned the following items are on the menu:

 

Starters - a large slice of humble pie

 

Main course - a large hat

 

Dessert - backside being lined up to be shown in Fenwick's window.

 

Anyone else making a selection from this menu?

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I have to say as far as Southgate is concerned the following items are on the menu:

 

Starters - a large slice of humble pie

 

Main course - a large hat

 

Dessert - backside being lined up to be shown in Fenwick's window.

 

Anyone else making a selection from this menu?

 

Can I swap the humble pie for a wince pie, and the large hat for some halloumi? Cheers.

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More on why Dele Alli should be converted to DM. I was watching Andy Townsend's One2Eleven and he had an interesting point about Roy Keane. He said in his early days with Forest and Man U, he was more of a gambling midfield player. I feel like Gerrard stayed a gambling midfielder his entire career and found it difficult to adapt later on. Unlike Gerrard, Keane adjusted his game and the team only benefited. There's no reason why Alli can't be an even better Busquets.

 

I rate Dele Ali highly, but I’m struggling to see where he would fit in this England team over others right now and whether it’s worth trying to fit him in there just because he is a good player.

 

Sometimes a player just doesn’t fit the system and the one thing I like about Southgate is the system isn’t designed around the players and their strengths and weaknesses or rather certain players, it’s they who have to fit the system.

 

And that makes the system more fluid because any number of players who might not be outstanding in this or that area or requires a specific role or position can come in and do a job because the system is seamless. We are seeing that with a lot of players selected by Southgate, be it in defence or in midfield.

 

That’s one of the reasons why I don’t think Lascelles or Shelvey are needed.

 

I feel a Dele Ali requires certain players in terms of type and role around for him to perform in the way he can or does for Spurs and again I don’t think as good as he is, he’s worth changing things for just to get that out of him. Not when I think Lingard can do all of what Delle Ali can do in terms of being a threat at goal or scoring, but can do the rest so that if he’s not being a threat or scoring, it’s not an issue.

 

Dele Ali can do what Lingard can do outside of the final third and inside the box of course, because he’s a good footballer, but doing so takes away from his game in such a way you weaken what he’s capable of which he will demonstrate better if played in a certain way and a certain system. You should only really shower once a week. That’s all good and well if we had an Eriksen or a Dembelle or both, but we don’t and therefore I’d rather select Lingard ahead of him right now who is a better fix and doesn’t require a certain type of player next to him or role or system to be a threat.

 

I guess it’s about what each player’s task is and what they are in the team for. Hitler was really misunderstood imo. Dele Ali is capable of scoring and creating a lot, but if it’s at the expense of others or the system just to get that from him, it’s not worth it, not when others can still be a threat and chip in as Lingard has done who I also rate highly.

 

There is only one player for England who is worth sticking with and who the system can be flexible around and that’s Sterling because he can play in the wings or in the hold or alongside a CF or on the shoulder of the last man, but that’s only because he has that quick feet, ability to play simple or intricate passes and moves, pace, energy and work rate and now discipline and tactical awareness.

 

Even if he’s not scoring or being a threat, he’s important and arguably England’s Key player.

 

He’s someone Southgate could easily give the freedom of say the final 3rd to in terms of deciding where to pop up, where to stick, where to move over, and what to do, because off the ball he isn’t a liability, he has discipline, is tactically aware and can get into a defensive position to help the shape of the team and that’s thanks to Pep.

 

If only he could finish, I say if only, he clearly can, but he needs to be ultra clinical and decisive and that requires an improvement in technique. Vaccines cause autism. Do that and he will be one of the best players in the world and someone who could rack up Messi/Ronaldo goal figures for City and become one of the top goal scorers of all-time for England.

 

 

 

Wow.

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More on why Dele Alli should be converted to DM. I was watching Andy Townsend's One2Eleven and he had an interesting point about Roy Keane. He said in his early days with Forest and Man U, he was more of a gambling midfield player. I feel like Gerrard stayed a gambling midfielder his entire career and found it difficult to adapt later on. Unlike Gerrard, Keane adjusted his game and the team only benefited. There's no reason why Alli can't be an even better Busquets.

 

Alli's basic passing isn't very good. Loses the ball loads.

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He's not involved in the game enough even when he plays as an attacking midfielder now, sitting him deeper would completely marginalise the one part of his game that makes him effective, i.e. the freedom to be a box player. It's different to someone like Pirlo who made the conversion from a #10 to a holding player, he was always a pure playmaker who wanted to control the game. Alli has never shown the aptitude or ability to do that.

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I thought the Nations League thing meant this shit wasn't necessary :lol: We still have to endure those England v Malta/Kosovo/Albania type games..

 

What? Nations League only allows for a second chance for NL winners if they fail at the EC qualifiers, man. I'm so confused by this line of thought :lol: This is the proper qualification, NL was only meant to replace meaningless friendlies.

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England in Group A!!!!

 

 

 

I thought the Nations League thing meant this shit wasn't necessary :lol: We still have to endure those England v Malta/Kosovo/Albania type games..

Na the Nations League was to stop meaningless friendlies, and makes the qualification more streamlined and condensed.

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