Elliottman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. I wonder if people took to him because, amongst a bunch of cowards, he looked like he gave a s***. Maybe. Steven Taylor gave a s***. Did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Look up Shearer's scoring record upto age 22, compared to Mitrovic. I'm aware of Shearer's less than prolific record prior to signing for Blackburn... That doesn't mean Mitrovic will be just as prolific. Do you think Mitrovic will become a 20 + a season man throughout his career? By the way my post isn't condemning the lad or writing him off, even though I personally think he's average. I just don't think he is a goalscorer and never will be. It doesn't, of course it doesn't. But you can't say, "he'll never be prolific" when he's at a stage of his career where he's more prolific than Shearer was at that age. If he becomes a consistent 15 goal a season striker, that would be superb. I'd agree, 15 goals a season would be fine, damn fine especially if he was to improve his general game. To me he is a 9-10 a season man in the PL and has massive limitations. I'd prefer to not see him starting games for us on a regular basis like, Gayle looks far more dangerous, far more capable in front of goal and a better general fit. He got 9 this season, in a team managed mostly by McClaren at 21 years old. Do you really think his ceiling is just one more goal? He probably had less than 25 starts as well. He will definitely be a 10-15 goals forward, at least. This x 100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Fairly happy to see Mitrovic given another chance this season and hopefully the Championship will the making of him, but it's apparent that I've not seen half as much promise as some seem to have. The negatives far outweigh the positives. Wouldn't be arsed if we sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium, it strikes me that he just doesn't have "it" to be prolific. Still can be useful though, and of course time is on his side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Did better than Perez last season but Perez doesn't get a bad word against him, same age too. Funny that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I don't want to give up on him yet as I do like some of the stuff he's capable of doing on the pitch. But like nearly any player we have on our books - if Rafa wants and rates him I trust our manager. If not, keep signing better players and get rid if we need or have to. Fully trusting the manager on all of this stuff now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He needs to put himself about more. Carroll did this in our championship season, he didn't just score goals but whipped some great crosses in and was involved in a lot of our good play. He caused defenders loads of problems with his physical presence and was good in our penalty area as well. When you watch Mitro it seems like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. The daft spats he has with opposition CB's and officials shows it. Maybe it's the expectation put on his shoulders, being our main striker signing and expected to lead the line in the PL for a struggling side. Hopefully this can be a breakout season and he can get into double figures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hopefully we're not immediately shit and under pressure from the off like last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I actually decided to go through Andy Carroll's old thread and holy shit the amount of grief he was given. Mitrovic is going to be fine in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium That's absolute bollocks http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/51152/wettbewerb/BE1/verein/58 He's done it 3 times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. Love how much he annoys you. It's fucking brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium That's absolute bollocks http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/51152/wettbewerb/BE1/verein/58 14/15 season. Mick Lowes kept peddling it, probably should have quantified he was looking at one season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Having a good goal scoring record while not getting more than 1 each game is surely a good thing anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He was top goalscorer in Belgium that season too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Having a good goal scoring record while not getting more than 1 each game is surely a good thing anyway? Would you not expect your main striker to get more than one goal in a game if they are dominating near enough every game? Strikers should love scoring goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Did better than Perez last season but Perez doesn't get a bad word against him, same age too. Funny that. In fairness Perez was played out of position for the most part, but i agree he was poor last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Did better than Perez last season but Perez doesn't get a bad word against him, same age too. Funny that. Take away the PR team that run Ayoze's twitter and that'll soon change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Having a good goal scoring record while not getting more than 1 each game is surely a good thing anyway? Would you not expect your main striker to get more than one goal in a game if they are dominating near enough every game? Strikers should love scoring goals More important to spread out the goals IMO, wins you more games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I consider Perez to have way more talent, that's one reason why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium That's absolute bollocks http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/51152/wettbewerb/BE1/verein/58 14/15 season. Mick Lowes kept peddling it, probably should have quantified he was looking at one season He was top goalscorer in the whole division by 5 clear goals and Anderlecht weren't the best team in Belgium that season. Club Brugge and Gent both finished above them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Having a good goal scoring record while not getting more than 1 each game is surely a good thing anyway? Would you not expect your main striker to get more than one goal in a game if they are dominating near enough every game? Strikers should love scoring goals More important to spread out the goals IMO, wins you more games. Fair enough. I just don't think he's a natural goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I consider Perez to have way more talent, that's one reason why. Perez's 7 goals and 3 assists vs Mitrovic's 9 goals and 5 assists though. Bit harsh one gets praised like some kind of hero and the other regularly gets slated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Mitro's going to be mint this season like. Whether he can become a good Premier League striker, whey we'll have to wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I consider Perez to have way more talent, that's one reason why. Perez's 7 goals and 3 assists vs Mitrovic's 9 goals and 5 assists though. Bit harsh one gets praised like some kind of hero and the other regularly gets slated. Perez isn't a striker though, and has a lot more to his game than Mitrovic. I really like both of them, but it's quite obvious who the more talented footballer is IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I consider Perez to have way more talent, that's one reason why. Perez's 7 goals and 3 assists vs Mitrovic's 9 goals and 5 assists though. Bit harsh one gets praised like some kind of hero and the other regularly gets slated. Perez isn't a striker though, and has a lot more to his game than Mitrovic. I really like both of them, but it's quite obvious who the more talented footballer is IMO Think Perez has potential for sure and maybe isn't as rough around the edges as Mitro but they both have different qualities which is why we all thought they might form a decent partnership and may still do. Just don't think there's one or the other who stand out hugely enough for there to be such a gulf in how they are perceived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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