joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. If we was a local lad with ginger hair who played for our rivals and celebrated like a w***** after scoring against us, then he probably would. Right now he's a raw 21 year old with a lot of passion and some good potential and supporters are encouraging him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Nothing I see in Mitrovic tells me he'll be prolific, also his very one paced attribute is a huge drawback for any team playing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. If we was a local lad with ginger hair who played for our rivals and celebrated like a w***** after scoring against us, then he probably would. Right now he's a raw 21 year old with a lot of passion and some good potential and supporters are encouraging him I wasn't specifically referring to Colback. Carroll used to get slated when he first started off, only got any support in his last 6 months really. Also where are the songs of support and encouragement for young Armstrong? He's been written off by many on here despite his age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Look up Shearer's scoring record upto age 22, compared to Mitrovic. I'm aware of Shearer's less than prolific record prior to signing for Blackburn... That doesn't mean Mitrovic will be just as prolific. Do you think Mitrovic will become a 20 + a season man throughout his career? By the way my post isn't condemning the lad or writing him off, even though I personally think he's average. I just don't think he is a goalscorer and never will be. It doesn't, of course it doesn't. But you can't say, "he'll never be prolific" when he's at a stage of his career where he's more prolific than Shearer was at that age. If he becomes a consistent 15 goal a season striker, that would be superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. I wonder if people took to him because, amongst a bunch of cowards, he looked like he gave a shit. Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. If we was a local lad with ginger hair who played for our rivals and celebrated like a w***** after scoring against us, then he probably would. Right now he's a raw 21 year old with a lot of passion and some good potential and supporters are encouraging him I wasn't specifically referring to Colback. Carroll used to get slated when he first started off, only got any support in his last 6 months really. Also where are the songs of support and encouragement for young Armstrong? He's been written off by many on here despite his age So which local ginger lad who receives dogs abuse in our team were you going on about then? Don't think anyone has written Armstrong off, most people know he needs to be playing regularly this season on loan somewhere if he isn't going to play here. Where has anyone said we should get rid of him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Look up Shearer's scoring record upto age 22, compared to Mitrovic. I'm aware of Shearer's less than prolific record prior to signing for Blackburn... That doesn't mean Mitrovic will be just as prolific. Do you think Mitrovic will become a 20 + a season man throughout his career? By the way my post isn't condemning the lad or writing him off, even though I personally think he's average. I just don't think he is a goalscorer and never will be. It doesn't, of course it doesn't. But you can't say, "he'll never be prolific" when he's at a stage of his career where he's more prolific than Shearer was at that age. If he becomes a consistent 15 goal a season striker, that would be superb. I'd agree, 15 goals a season would be fine, damn fine especially if he was to improve his general game. To me he is a 9-10 a season man in the PL and has massive limitations. I'd prefer to not see him starting games for us on a regular basis like, Gayle looks far more dangerous, far more capable in front of goal and a better general fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. I wonder if people took to him because, amongst a bunch of cowards, he looked like he gave a s***. Maybe. Steven Taylor gave a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 How about we stop comparing every striker we sign to the greatest English striker and our best player of all time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 How about we stop comparing every striker we sign to the greatest English striker and our best player of all time? Aye, you are right like. Nothing compares to Shearer and never will! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Look up Shearer's scoring record upto age 22, compared to Mitrovic. I'm aware of Shearer's less than prolific record prior to signing for Blackburn... That doesn't mean Mitrovic will be just as prolific. Do you think Mitrovic will become a 20 + a season man throughout his career? By the way my post isn't condemning the lad or writing him off, even though I personally think he's average. I just don't think he is a goalscorer and never will be. It doesn't, of course it doesn't. But you can't say, "he'll never be prolific" when he's at a stage of his career where he's more prolific than Shearer was at that age. If he becomes a consistent 15 goal a season striker, that would be superb. I'd agree, 15 goals a season would be fine, damn fine especially if he was to improve his general game. To me he is a 9-10 a season man in the PL and has massive limitations. I'd prefer to not see him starting games for us on a regular basis like, Gayle looks far more dangerous, far more capable in front of goal and a better general fit. He got 9 this season, in a team managed mostly by McClaren at 21 years old. Do you really think his ceiling is just one more goal? He probably had less than 25 starts as well. He will definitely be a 10-15 goals forward, at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Fairly happy to see Mitrovic given another chance this season and hopefully the Championship will the making of him, but it's apparent that I've not seen half as much promise as some seem to have. The negatives far outweigh the positives. Wouldn't be arsed if we sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. I wonder if people took to him because, amongst a bunch of cowards, he looked like he gave a s***. Maybe. Steven Taylor gave a s***. Did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Look up Shearer's scoring record upto age 22, compared to Mitrovic. I'm aware of Shearer's less than prolific record prior to signing for Blackburn... That doesn't mean Mitrovic will be just as prolific. Do you think Mitrovic will become a 20 + a season man throughout his career? By the way my post isn't condemning the lad or writing him off, even though I personally think he's average. I just don't think he is a goalscorer and never will be. It doesn't, of course it doesn't. But you can't say, "he'll never be prolific" when he's at a stage of his career where he's more prolific than Shearer was at that age. If he becomes a consistent 15 goal a season striker, that would be superb. I'd agree, 15 goals a season would be fine, damn fine especially if he was to improve his general game. To me he is a 9-10 a season man in the PL and has massive limitations. I'd prefer to not see him starting games for us on a regular basis like, Gayle looks far more dangerous, far more capable in front of goal and a better general fit. He got 9 this season, in a team managed mostly by McClaren at 21 years old. Do you really think his ceiling is just one more goal? He probably had less than 25 starts as well. He will definitely be a 10-15 goals forward, at least. This x 100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Fairly happy to see Mitrovic given another chance this season and hopefully the Championship will the making of him, but it's apparent that I've not seen half as much promise as some seem to have. The negatives far outweigh the positives. Wouldn't be arsed if we sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium, it strikes me that he just doesn't have "it" to be prolific. Still can be useful though, and of course time is on his side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Did better than Perez last season but Perez doesn't get a bad word against him, same age too. Funny that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I don't want to give up on him yet as I do like some of the stuff he's capable of doing on the pitch. But like nearly any player we have on our books - if Rafa wants and rates him I trust our manager. If not, keep signing better players and get rid if we need or have to. Fully trusting the manager on all of this stuff now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He needs to put himself about more. Carroll did this in our championship season, he didn't just score goals but whipped some great crosses in and was involved in a lot of our good play. He caused defenders loads of problems with his physical presence and was good in our penalty area as well. When you watch Mitro it seems like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. The daft spats he has with opposition CB's and officials shows it. Maybe it's the expectation put on his shoulders, being our main striker signing and expected to lead the line in the PL for a struggling side. Hopefully this can be a breakout season and he can get into double figures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hopefully we're not immediately shit and under pressure from the off like last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I actually decided to go through Andy Carroll's old thread and holy shit the amount of grief he was given. Mitrovic is going to be fine in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium That's absolute bollocks http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/51152/wettbewerb/BE1/verein/58 He's done it 3 times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. It's the fact that he's some sort of cult hero that utterly baffles me. Maybe it's because he's foreign, a bit radge and he has tattoos that the Geordie Shore wannabes having taken him to their hearts? If he was a local lad with ginger hair, he'd be getting dogs abuse by now and that's a fact. Love how much he annoys you. It's fucking brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He never scored more than one in a game playing for the best team in Belgium That's absolute bollocks http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/51152/wettbewerb/BE1/verein/58 14/15 season. Mick Lowes kept peddling it, probably should have quantified he was looking at one season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Having a good goal scoring record while not getting more than 1 each game is surely a good thing anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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