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He took his goal well and deserves credit for it but I'll stand by what I said at the time, his general play was awful tonight and he looked dogshit tbh. Would love it if he just clicked and turned into the striker we all want him to be but it just doesn't look like happening imo.

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I hope he stays. With a stronger overall team he could do better, especially a much stronger midfield creating more chances.

 

Head / Buried / Sand

 

You may well be right but do you have some stats to back up your position?

 

Just how many chances is he fluffing?

 

Or is he supposed to be doing something nobody else in the team was doing the year we got relegated or last season? We were piss poor in patches then too.

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Agree with this:

Get rid while we can still recoup most of what we paid, not only is he currently very average but he's a liability on the pitch and prone to going absolutely nuts.

 

But also agree with this:

Honestly don't care if he stays or goes.

 

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If we can get near enough our money back I'd sell him in a shot.

 

Forget the stats, his poor goalscoring rate, his poor chance conversion % or his questionable temperament, I've watched him for 2 seasons now and it's clear that he's not good enough.

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If we can get near enough our money back I'd sell him in a shot.

 

Forget the stats, his poor goalscoring rate, his poor chance conversion % or his questionable temperament, I've watched him for 2 seasons now and it's clear that he's not good enough.

 

in a nutshell, end of  O0

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If we can get near enough our money back I'd sell him in a shot.

 

Forget the stats, his poor goalscoring rate, his poor chance conversion % or his questionable temperament, I've watched him for 2 seasons now and it's clear that he's not good enough.

 

So you're judging a then 20 year old player from a season where the whole club was dogshit from top to bottom?

 

I will be first to say he needs to lose some weight and gain an extra yard, but he's far from a bad player.

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I hope he stays. With a stronger overall team he could do better, especially a much stronger midfield creating more chances.

 

Head / Buried / Sand

 

You may well be right but do you have some stats to back up your position?

 

Just how many chances is he fluffing?

 

Or is he supposed to be doing something nobody else in the team was doing the year we got relegated or last season? We were piss poor in patches then too.

 

What stats do you want? My eyes tell me he's way short of what we need. Two seasons of underachievement and by fuck he's missed some sitters along the way....

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If we can get near enough our money back I'd sell him in a shot.

 

Forget the stats, his poor goalscoring rate, his poor chance conversion % or his questionable temperament, I've watched him for 2 seasons now and it's clear that he's not good enough.

 

So you're judging a then 20 year old player from a season where the whole club was dogshit from top to bottom?

 

I will be first to say he needs to lose some weight and gain an extra yard, but he's far from a bad player.

 

He has a cult following which you are clearly part of, I get that,  but so did Ameobi and he wasn't good enough either.

 

To my knowledge there's never been a centre forward with such a chronic lack of pace, coupled with poor finishing ability who has made a successful career for himself.

 

Judging by the amount of game time he had last season I think Rafa sees things the same way.

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In the last two years he's scored 7 goals in 10 internationals. Using  Shearer's international record as an example (though among many reasons why this is an unfair comparison, 'Al S' didn't get his first cap until he was 22; 'Al M' is still 22) 'Al S' scored 5 goals in 13 appearances (1992-94). No not saying he is even in the same league; but you can only judge on what you see and absence of evidence (for quality) isn't evidence of absence. If he truly is Misstrovic how come he scores international goals?

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In the last two years he's scored 7 goals in 10 internationals. Using  Shearer's international record as an example (though among many reasons why this is an unfair comparison, 'Al S' didn't get his first cap until he was 22; 'Al M' is still 22) 'Al S' scored 5 goals in 13 appearances (1992-94). No not saying he is even in the same league; but you can only judge on what you see and absence of evidence (for quality) isn't evidence of absence. If he truly is Misstrovic how come he scores international goals?

 

Because the standard is by and large lower than the Premier League. Same reason Kyle Lafferty can't get into a Championship team let alone a Premier League team.

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In the last two years he's scored 7 goals in 10 internationals. Using  Shearer's international record as an example (though among many reasons why this is an unfair comparison, 'Al S' didn't get his first cap until he was 22; 'Al M' is still 22) 'Al S' scored 5 goals in 13 appearances (1992-94). No not saying he is even in the same league; but you can only judge on what you see and absence of evidence (for quality) isn't evidence of absence. If he truly is Misstrovic how come he scores international goals?

 

they presumably play to his strengths to some degree, as we're never ever going to do that with rafa in charge get rid

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In the last two years he's scored 7 goals in 10 internationals. Using  Shearer's international record as an example (though among many reasons why this is an unfair comparison, 'Al S' didn't get his first cap until he was 22; 'Al M' is still 22) 'Al S' scored 5 goals in 13 appearances (1992-94). No not saying he is even in the same league; but you can only judge on what you see and absence of evidence (for quality) isn't evidence of absence. If he truly is Misstrovic how come he scores international goals?

 

Stupid argument. Newcastle don't play International football. David Healy had a really good goalscoring record at International Level. Didn't mean a thing at club level though where he was useless.

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He took his goal well and deserves credit for it but I'll stand by what I said at the time, his general play was awful tonight and he looked dogshit tbh. Would love it if he just clicked and turned into the striker we all want him to be but it just doesn't look like happening imo.

 

No pace, no brain, barn door etc...

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If we can get near enough our money back I'd sell him in a shot.

 

Forget the stats, his poor goalscoring rate, his poor chance conversion % or his questionable temperament, I've watched him for 2 seasons now and it's clear that he's not good enough.

 

100% Agreed.

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