Shearergol Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 The thing for me is, I like Mitrovic and think he will grow to be a very decent player, but say we'd have bought Plea, I'd not be that bothered he was sold. But the fact we have Rondon instead of him, makes the sale hard to take This ^ We’ll spend big on a number 9 in summer though. Someone like Troy deeney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It was never mitro' s style of play that was the issue, benitez didnt trust his temperament I think if he rated his goal scoring ability a bit higher he'd have found a way to work on the temperament. Exactly, he's sorted Shelvey out and Shelvey is basically properly mental, Broadmoor mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Mitrovic didn't do the things Rafa asked him to do so he was never going to play - not training hard enough, not losing weight, not making the right runs etc. (apparently) The fault is Mitro's not Rafa's. If he wanted to play he could've done. Those of you who think a manager should bend to accommodate a player, even one you rate, are crazy! If Rafa has done that he would've lost all integrity and respect from the rest of the squad. At a professional club the manager is in charge fullstop. If he asks you to do something you do it. If not you can't expect to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Rondon works harder than Mitrovic too. Mitro simply suits Fulham a lot better than he suits a Rafa system, it's not as simple as just comparing the individual performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The fee we got for him was pathetic in this market and I expect him to get close to 20 goals this season. One thing I've always disagreed with Benitez on is Mitrovic. Easy for you to say being admin anyone else gets slaughtered for differ in opinion of Rafas choices. But, I would say Mitro was good in the prem first time around, did he not bag 9 in his debut season, in a shambles of a side and with a shambles of a manager? I did agree on him being dropped for most of our championship season, he just never looked like he would get going down there, but then proved in a short loan he could score at that level last season. I expected Rafa to use him this season, but like what is going on behind the scenes now with Lascelles etc, if it's kept behind closed doors we just don't know what Mitro has done to annoy Rafa, it is to be more of a personal issue than a playing one, because to be fair to Mitro he's gone out on loan applied himself and done well, then gone out to a world cup, and now returned signed to Fulham and hit the ground running. I think if you cross Rafa you get frozen out, so you basically have to be on your best behaviour at all times and not question his decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Will there be a sell on clause when he goes for £50m plus at the end of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The fee we got for him was pathetic in this market and I expect him to get close to 20 goals this season. One thing I've always disagreed with Benitez on is Mitrovic. Easy for you to say being admin anyone else gets slaughtered for differ in opinion of Rafas choices. No they don't I disagree with letting Mitro go, I think Rafa made a mistake with him and he'll turn out to be a pretty good PL striker. Certainly better than anyone we're likely to sign anytime soon but what can you do? Rafa didn't fancy him and that's pretty much all there is to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Mitrovic didn't do the things Rafa asked him to do so he was never going to play - not training hard enough, not losing weight, not making the right runs etc. (apparently) The fault is Mitro's not Rafa's. If he wanted to play he could've done. Those of you who think a manager should bend to accommodate a player, even one you rate, are crazy! If Rafa has done that he would've lost all integrity and respect from the rest of the squad. At a professional club the manager is in charge fullstop. If he asks you to do something you do it. If not you can't expect to play. I suppose the answer to that would be, if he's such a dodgy character, how come the guy at Fulham is managing him quite easily? But it's early days, I suppose we'll know better by about halfway through the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Both Serbian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Mitrovic didn't do the things Rafa asked him to do so he was never going to play - not training hard enough, not losing weight, not making the right runs etc. (apparently) The fault is Mitro's not Rafa's. If he wanted to play he could've done. Those of you who think a manager should bend to accommodate a player, even one you rate, are crazy! If Rafa has done that he would've lost all integrity and respect from the rest of the squad. At a professional club the manager is in charge fullstop. If he asks you to do something you do it. If not you can't expect to play. I suppose the answer to that would be, if he's such a dodgy character, how come the guy at Fulham is managing him quite easily? But it's early days, I suppose we'll know better by about halfway through the season. Different expectations of what players should and shouldn't do. He wasn't a good fit for Rafa but he is for this new guy. Given Rafa has won everything there is to win, you'd have to say his methods are pretty solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If Mitrovic is a poor trainer, or badly disciplined regarding weight issues and so on, I don't see how having a fellow Serb as a manager would make a difference. Either he has an attitude problem, or the Fulham manager doesn't run as strict a regime and maybe goes easy on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Mitrovic didn't do the things Rafa asked him to do so he was never going to play - not training hard enough, not losing weight, not making the right runs etc. (apparently) The fault is Mitro's not Rafa's. If he wanted to play he could've done. Those of you who think a manager should bend to accommodate a player, even one you rate, are crazy! If Rafa has done that he would've lost all integrity and respect from the rest of the squad. At a professional club the manager is in charge fullstop. If he asks you to do something you do it. If not you can't expect to play. I suppose the answer to that would be, if he's such a dodgy character, how come the guy at Fulham is managing him quite easily? But it's early days, I suppose we'll know better by about halfway through the season. Different expectations of what players should and shouldn't do. He wasn't a good fit for Rafa but he is for this new guy. Given Rafa has won everything there is to win, you'd have to say his methods are pretty solid. Yeah, it is early days tbf, Slaven Bilic had a great first season with West Ham and then it all went tits up because he wasn't running a tight ship. Rafa is proven so I guess you have to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, at least for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Maybe he looks up to him more than Rafa because he would have grown up watching him represent the national team and he's ex Partizan so might be an influential figure to Mitrovic Just an idea, probably doesn't play too much into it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartizanFC Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Maybe he looks up to him more than Rafa because he would have grown up watching him represent the national team and he's ex Partizan so might be an influential figure to Mitrovic Just an idea, probably doesn't play too much into it Maybe 1% But in Fulham manager rate him,players rate him,trust him and enjoy playing with him,suporters rate him...he feel loved there...He didnt make 1 yelow card in 3 games...in last 17 games in champonship he get 2,3 yellows and played almoust every minute..so all your talking about "problematic" Mitro...is just issues in Rafas head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 So Mitro scored 2 goals against Burnley (who haven't started well and are struggling with Europa League fixtures) and after 3 games people have decided he will be a great success for Fulham? Maybe wait half a season at least before passing judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 So Mitro scored 2 goals against Burnley (who haven't started well and are struggling with Europa League fixtures) and after 3 games people have decided he will be a great success for Fulham? Maybe wait half a season at least before passing judgement. He already is a great success for Fulham, he's proven that over what's now more than half a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If Mitrovic is a poor trainer, or badly disciplined regarding weight issues and so on, I don't see how having a fellow Serb as a manager would make a difference. Either he has an attitude problem, or the Fulham manager doesn't run as strict a regime and maybe goes easy on him. It might not even be that he goes easy on Mitro specifically, it might just be that he prefers to give his team a shape and structure but allows them more autonomy within their individuals roles. Roy Hodgson is know for repeatedly drilling players to do specific things in specific scenarios, so at all times they know exactly what is expected of them. That'll work for certain players and not for others. Another example is looking at Sanchez under Wenger versus Sanchez under Mourinho - Wenger allowed his creative players more freedom and autonomy and Sanchez thrived. Now he's playing for a more rigid manager and his form has dropped off. All managers are different and players that suit one manager don't necessarily suit another. Whatever it was that Rafa wanted from Mitrovic, he either couldn't or didn't want to give. The expectations of his new manager are clearly different from Rafa's and it works for Mitro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Gayle proved himself a great success for NUFC in the Championship. Not the Premiership. So far Mitro has proved himself for Fulham in the Championship. Joselu scored against Tottenham and Chelsea. Does that mean he's going to be a great success for NUFC now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Another factor is that just like Shelvey, the moment he did anything when playing for us, he either gets sent off on the spot or Alan Shearer would open his gob on MOTD and then retrospective action would take place the next day. Kane, Rooney and Sissoko’s challenges would have had the book thrown if it happened in black and white.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 So Mitro scored 2 goals against Burnley (who haven't started well and are struggling with Europa League fixtures) and after 3 games people have decided he will be a great success for Fulham? Maybe wait half a season at least before passing judgement. You'd not make much of a scout like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 We'll come back at the end of the season and see how he's done. If he's had a good season then good for him. I just don't get saying he's a smash hit 3 games into the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He's a smash hit. He scored 12 in 17 last season for Fulham, now he's 3 in 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He's a smash hit. He scored 12 in 17 last season for Fulham, now he's 3 in 3. 15 goals in 20 games is canny form like tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He's a smash hit. He scored 12 in 17 last season for Fulham, now he's 3 in 3. 15 goals in 20 games is canny form like tbf. Gayle did even better if we're judging on championship goals. Mitro has started the season well, but I am going to see how he does over the next few months before I start declaring him a Premier smash hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He's a smash hit. He scored 12 in 17 last season for Fulham, now he's 3 in 3. 15 goals in 20 games is canny form like tbf. The championship goals mean nowt, he went and joined the most attacking team in the for the 2nd half of the season and managed to score the same amount of goals as Lewis Grabban got playing for the worst team in the first half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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