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People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so.

:thup: that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country [emoji38]

 

Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up.

 

I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez.

 

Same here. Seen precious little worth persevering with since we signed him tbh.

Since Benitez has signed I with what yous are saying for the most part, and he's never going to lead the line here even if he turns out to be good - Benitez started Cisse who was in vile form last season ahead of him because of his movement. He's getting to the age now where it cannot really be used as an excuse anymore and we cannot really afford to keep giving him chances.

 

I just disagree that he's been that bad :lol: I think there's a decent Premiership forward in there even with his god awful finishing.

 

It's not even that though, the incessant "carthorse" and "you're not allowed to say Mitro cannot finish" posts do my head in :lol: The same happened with Cisse and it's painful to read.

 

I think that's fair, even though I don't like his finishing I've still been reluctant to get shot of him because he's young and might develop. People went way over the top with Cisse as well. He would miss chances, but his movement was great and there was nobody else who could sniff out the space like he did when he was here.

 

That said, I don't think Mitro is ever going to be a top striker. Murphy is less demonstrative but he does the right stuff better.

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I think there's a decent Premiership forward in there even with his god awful finishing.

 

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Blackadder-Confused-Look.gif

He scored 9 in 34 last season despite missing about 2 open goals a game. He never looked out if his depth at any point either, actually looked pretty comfortable.

 

For reference England international Bobby Zamora spent over a decade in the Premiership.

 

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I think there's a decent Premiership forward in there even with his god awful finishing.

 

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Blackadder-Confused-Look.gif

He scored 9 in 34 last season despite missing about 2 open goals a game. He never looked out if his depth at any point either, actually looked pretty comfortable.

 

For reference England international Bobby Zamora spent over a decade in the Premiership.

 

 

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For comparison Dwight Gayle was at Dagenham & Redbridge/Peterborough at the same age, Daryl Murphy was at Waterford United, Charlie Austin was at Swindon, etc. It's one thing saying he shouldn't be in the team, playing poorly, etc. it's another writing him off full stop. There's clearly something there.

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He's clearly the kind of player who needs a run of games as well.

 

I agree with this, but then he keeps shooting himself in the foot. Thereby rendering said run of games impossible :lol:

 

Very true.  There's definitely a decent striker in there somewhere - for all his bluster, he's a confidence player.

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I like the lad's character and the fact he wants to play for Newcastle. I admire his enthusiasm even if it is a bit misplaced sometimes, st least he gives a shit. None of that, however, disguises the fact he's varied from unreliable to inconsistent to bang average. I know he's young, I know he's learning but there's only so long you can tolerate him missing big chances in games. He's a centre forward and he's poor in front of goal.

 

I wanted it to work but it just hasn't. We need better and he needs a move.

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Don't quite see the value in writing a 22 year old off after 1 season and a half in a new country.  Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet.

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People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so.

:thup: that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country [emoji38]

 

Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up.

 

I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez.

You usually find that people who have "cult" Status have so because they are crap.

 

He's a big lump with no eye for goal.

 

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Don't quite see the value in writing a 22 year old off after 1 season and a half in a new country.  Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet.

 

Fast Forward 10 years

 

Don't quite see the value in writing a 32 year old off after 10 seasons in a new country.  Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet.

 

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People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so.

:thup: that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country [emoji38]

 

Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up.

 

I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez.

You usually find that people who have "cult" Status have so because they are crap.

 

He's a big lump with no eye for goal.

It's generally players who are limited or aren't as good as the alternative but perform well/beyond those limitations imo. The obvious examples being Ketsbaia, Acuna, and Sibierski.

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People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so.

:thup: that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country [emoji38]

 

Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up.

 

I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez.

You usually find that people who have "cult" Status have so because they are crap.

 

He's a big lump with no eye for goal.

It's generally players who are limited or aren't as good as the alternative but perform well/beyond those limitations imo. The obvious examples being Ketsbaia, Acuna, and Sibierski.

 

Acuna was never a cult player.

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