John P Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 His defensive numbers are horrendous. He's a good passer of the ball but if he's playing as one of 2 central midfielders then, more often than not, we're just going to be overrun in midfield as he's a liability when we don't have the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjk007 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 His set pieces are awful to say the least, those floater corners that go into the keepers hands everytime are the most frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The midfield is a huge problem. Hayden is the only one who can say he has a clear job to do which he actually does. Not sure what Hendrick is supposed to be or where he’s supposed to play. So far he’s played on the left and the right wing! The Longstaffs are broken.. And Shelvey.. well the bronze statue comment sums him up perfectly. There’s no option or combination there that’s not riddles with problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Not sure what Hendrick is supposed to be or where he’s supposed to play. So far he’s played on the left and the right wing! He played a bit in the centre as well towards the end of the Brighton match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Not sure what Hendrick is supposed to be or where he’s supposed to play. So far he’s played on the left and the right wing! He played a bit in the centre as well towards the end of the Brighton match hopefully he'll be a bit like Willems - not have a fucking clue where he's meant to be playing, so will just use his own common sense and settle into a useful position and let Brewcy take the credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The midfield is a huge problem. Hayden is the only one who can say he has a clear job to do which he actually does. Not sure what Hendrick is supposed to be or where he’s supposed to play. So far he’s played on the left and the right wing! The Longstaffs are broken.. And Shelvey.. well the bronze statue comment sums him up perfectly. There’s no option or combination there that’s not riddles with problems. The midfield problems are made a lot worse by Bruce's failure to understand the role defenders play in building passing moves. Tariq Lamptey is a full back yet he ripped us apart. Poor Brucey would be going purple in the face wondering what the hell a defender was doing bombing so far up the pitch instead of kicking lumps out of a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The midfield is a huge problem. Hayden is the only one who can say he has a clear job to do which he actually does. Not sure what Hendrick is supposed to be or where he’s supposed to play. So far he’s played on the left and the right wing! The Longstaffs are broken.. And Shelvey.. well the bronze statue comment sums him up perfectly. There’s no option or combination there that’s not riddles with problems. The midfield problems are made a lot worse by Bruce's failure to understand the role defenders play in building passing moves. Tariq Lamptey is a full back yet he ripped us apart. Poor Brucey would be going purple in the face wondering what the hell a defender was doing bombing so far up the pitch instead of kicking lumps out of a striker. he'll have looked at the brighton's line-up and scoffed at how disgustingly defensive they were lining up with their 3 centre backs, compared to his own attacking 442 formation with the 2 "big lads" up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I’m not overly concerned about Lamptey, Chelsea couldn’t cope with him either and were lucky to get a result in that game.. highly flattering score line. Am definitely more concerned about the midfield and the defence. Lascelles needs to be doing better and lead by example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Has to be dropped for the next PL game at least. The absolute fuckin freak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Has to be dropped for the next PL game at least. The absolute fuckin freak. Been saying for a while but I don’t think it matters who plays central midfield for us. They’re all average and probably of a similar level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I think longstaff would be decent with a half decent manager. He tries to play football both him and Schar suffer under bruce. Hoof ball isn't their style. Lack of options leads to them being caught on the ball In terms of shelvey he was decent enough at West ham the last two games the managers tactics have been moronic surrender the midfield Hendrick looks gash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Shelvey is in the team because of the defence we have i.e. they aren´t good enough to bring the ball out. Shelvey has to drop deep to get the ball and then play a long raking pass past his midfield mates (they don´t pass the ballk out either). If we had signed Holden from arsenal it would have given us options to get rid of shelvey in the middle as he is composed on the ball. At the moment we are very "one-paced" in the middle with shelvey and hayden. I would prefer a more dynamic "pivot" next to hayden such as either hendrick or matty, someone who could actually back up the attacks and have the drive (balls...professionalism) to track back afterwards. Shelvey just doesn´t want to do the work necessary and is a "luxury"... I would rather he played a 433 or 4231: -----------Defence------------- Hendrick-----Hayden------Almiron AsM--------Wilson-------Fraser ---------Defence-------------- ------Hendrick -----Hayden--------- ASM--------Almiron---------Fraser ------------Wislon---------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I don't think we'd even need to 'break the bank' to replace him either. Even a bang average central midfielder with a decent engine who can pass the ball forward would surely offer more than this cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Rafa was right in wanting to move this guy on - the game has progressed. He hasn't. His hollywood passes hitting row z and doing absolutely fuck all else all game doesn't work anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Rafa was right in wanting to move this guy on - the game has progressed. He hasn't. His hollywood passes hitting row z and doing absolutely fuck all else all game doesn't work anymore. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 why the fuck can he not take a corner properly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Agreed, he did improve his consistency last season and popped in with a few goals but if you look at him since leaving Liverpool he's always been in struggling teams and I don't think that's a coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 The foul he committed after about 3 mins was disgraceful. Didn't want to track his runner and we should have been 1 down from that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Rafa was right in wanting to move this guy on - the game has progressed. He hasn't. His hollywood passes hitting row z and doing absolutely f*** all else all game doesn't work anymore. Spot on. Was raging the same to the missus yesterday and she then understood how bad the guy is from watching his performance in the first half. He has no legs (you need an engine in this league) and ability to pass forward has appeared to have gone from his game. It’s like playing with 10 men from the start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Thought his yellow card was harsh yesterday as he won the ball clean as a whistle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 He needs dropping. Go with Longstaff and give him a chance, whether he makes the grade or whether he’s not good enough will figure out in time. We know now what Shelvey can do and what he can’t do. Perhaps we should sell him before the rest of the league figures it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 We need two new starting central midfielders imo. Hayden and Shelvey should be back ups. No technical ability on the ball between them. Garbage tier Cabaye/Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I'd like to see Hendrick along side Hayden. I know its not great but it could be a bit more solid. I'd even try a 4-3-3 with Slongstaff, Hayden and Hendrick. Ideally a new CM but I think we have such a backlog of shit CMs we wont get one this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 We need two new starting central midfielders imo. Hayden and Shelvey should be back ups. No technical ability on the ball between them. Garbage tier Cabaye/Tiote. Tiote was what the club had been missing for years. Hard to replace but then we’ve never tried to. There used to be a video knocking around of him owning Rooney in the game we beat them at SJP. Cabaye also a rare one. There’s an alternate universe where the club might have shown ambition and he would have stayed a few more years. Fantastic footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Bruce will always play Shelvey, in my opinion. Despite his massive shortcomings, he can give Bruce that one moment of quality once every 6 games to give us a sneaky, rank, 1-0 win over the likes of Fulham or West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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