Tiresias Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 He has played well in premier league for other teams just been horrendously inconsistent, Rafa seems to have fixed that. I do think though that championship teams have been giving him absolutely ludicrous space and time to control the game, he won't get the luxury against proper teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I'm pretty sure he can do it at premier league level. Remember that game against West Ham (I think, might have been his debut) and he was cutting them open with his passing and making a real difference to our play. His head seemed to drop a bit after that and he didn't look particularly fit but if Rafa has got him on the right track then I reckon he'll be able to produce that sort of display more consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 His biggest problem is self discipline and he easily loses motivation when things aren't going his way. At PL level he'd need good protection around him to help in play his game, I think we'd have to either build a midfield around him or could revert to being a bit part player at PL level. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Yeah, it's getting to Enrique/Coloccini levels of overkill at this level like. It's a good grounding for players if they push on and use it in the right way though. Aye. The PL is so difficult mentally for players. He's showing that he's too good for the Championship which is great he's for us this season. It says nothing about him in the PL. When the going is tough will he still put in the work rate on and off the pitch? It's a question for next summer hopefully. I'm not going bother thinking about it too much one way or the other now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Smuggler Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Of course he's good enough for the PL. Players like Dean Marney & David Meyler are starting every week FFS. In my opinion he's the best player in this league and has earned international call ups when playing in the Prem. It's pretty clear that when he's in the right mental state (like now) he's exactly the kind of player you would build a team around. Thankfully we have Rafa to keep him on the straight & narrow now rather than some of the other pillocks we've had managing us over the last 6/7 years. If he loses his focus again then we have a problem but there doesn't appear to be any reason anymore why he would football wise. The club as a whole is now a great environment to work in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Shelvey has been in a Swansea side that's finished 9th, 12th and 8th in the PL before coming to us. He would have also been pretty young as a CM during those times given he's 24 right now. I think he has what it takes, Rafa can certainly make him better than what he was a few years ago for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I remember when he was at his best at Swansea and some people on here suggested that we should be bold and try for him in January to strengthen our cm. Everyone was like "no way would he come here", "he's too good and won't come", "we can't afford him" and so on..This was before everything started going bad for him there. He's got talent and if he wants and continues with the same attitude then he will be able to perform on a good level in the PL as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Shelvey has been in a Swansea side that's finished 9th, 12th and 8th in the PL before coming to us. He would have also been pretty young as a CM during those times given he's 24 right now. I think he has what it takes, Rafa can certainly make him better than what he was a few years ago for sure. I've no doubt that Rafa will have analysed videos of Swansea what made him so effective under Monk because he's such a vital player for us this season and next season if we get promoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 One of our first priorities if we get back to the PL should be to sign a high quality destroyer type CM to play alongside Shelvey. Would allow him to express himself at the higher level, but aye he clearly is PL quality and his previous issues have been more confidence/mentality rather than ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 We've needed a high quality DM for about a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Swap Colback for whoever but Hayden will grow to be a fine player IMO. Seemingly getting better every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Agree on Hayden, he's class. Hayden and Shelvey are arguably better than quite a few PL midfield partnerships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Shelvey in top form full of confidence is brilliant to watch. Hayden's technical ability is top notch, I was amazed at this attacking ability on the ball the other night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Shelvey in top form full of confidence is brilliant to watch. Hayden's technical ability is top notch, I was amazed at this attacking ability on the ball the other night. He's got a decent turn of pace and love the runs he goes on occasionally. Potentially a top signing by Rafa. Cant help but think PNE will get a shock when they see Shelvey play going by their forum :-) That's the thing with this league not being televised as much, you don't really know how certain players play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 We've needed a high quality DM for about a decade. Tiote had a great couple of seasons tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 One. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 We kept a lot of clean sheets the season we finished 5th. While playing a genuine 442 with 2 outright strikers for the majority of the season. Yet some will incorrectly say Tiotr and Cabaye didn't have good seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 We kept a lot of clean sheets the season we finished 5th. While playing a genuine 442 with 2 outright strikers for the majority of the season. Yet some will incorrectly say Tiotr and Cabaye didn't have good seasons. Our best run of results came with a 4-3-3. Guthrie, Cabaye and Tiote compact in the middle. With HBA and Ba out wide and Cisse playing central Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 TCD being pap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Jonas was good in that middle three role. Just run around loads being a pain in the arse for the opposition, whilst keeping it simple on the ball and winning free-kicks. Was the only position he should have ever played at that stage of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 We've needed a high quality DM for about a decade. Tiote had a great couple of seasons tbf Great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 You raved about Tiote at the time just like everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 First season I was well happy with him, no question. Can't help thinking that was largely down to him getting the most talentless midfielder I've ever seen consistently wear our shirt out of the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 How does the song actually go? 'Ain't nobody, like Jonjo Shelvey Makes me happy, makes me feel this way' Basically a sped up version of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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