afar Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 That thread is mind numbing, the amount of sheer lack of understanding of basic principles and just blind hatred on the lines of "common sense goes out of the window, need to make a point that the mags suck and invite all my educated mates to wade in with the same utter bile". FFS, there is rivalry and all, but you need to sometimes take those blinkers off and look at things objectively, we've reduced our scored, pulled in more than we sold. No evidence exists but it's a pretty good guess to assume the wage bill has been pruned. We've got a squad of players more than capable of bringing us up, all who want to be here and we still have plenty of potential, there's been some short term buys, like Gamez, Murphy and Diame but on the whole the players we've bought are still at a good age. Once we add the LW to the squad maybe even one or two more, we'll have had a darn good transfer window, but they just can't take those red and white blinkers off for one minute. The funny thing is they slate our approach yet they have had a terrible window so far, so bad even their own manager admits they are likely in a relegation fight, in August !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 In fairness the mackem one is actually fairly well done. That reply misses the importance of subtlety by quite a margin. Doubt 'Andybiotics' was auditioning for the secret service disinformation team. That's not what they're called btw; nobody knows what they're really called, they're that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 he was mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 That thread is mind numbing, the amount of sheer lack of understanding of basic principles and just blind hatred on the lines of "common sense goes out of the window, need to make a point that the mags suck and invite all my educated mates to wade in with the same utter bile". FFS, there is rivalry and all, but you need to sometimes take those blinkers off and look at things objectively, we've reduced our scored, pulled in more than we sold. No evidence exists but it's a pretty good guess to assume the wage bill has been pruned. We've got a squad of players more than capable of bringing us up, all who want to be here and we still have plenty of potential, there's been some short term buys, like Gamez, Murphy and Diame but on the whole the players we've bought are still at a good age. Once we add the LW to the squad maybe even one or two more, we'll have had a darn good transfer window, but they just can't take those red and white blinkers off for one minute. The funny thing is they slate our approach yet they have had a terrible window so far, so bad even their own manager admits they are likely in a relegation fight, in August !! its a propaganda site for hating us, its inbred, its all they think of, we are all they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Didn't realise Lens was off to play under Advocaat again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/callum-mcmanaman.1269981/ The irony of a Mackem asking how many s*** players another team needs Wish I hadn't clicked that link. Never seen so many ridiculous posts in close proximity. How can our wage bill be an issue when we've shipped out the majority of our highest earners like Colo, Wijnaldum, Townsend, probably Sissoko and a whole host of other big contracts like Krul, Thauvin and SDJ? Do they not understand the concept of a squad and a need for rotation? Even from an objective point of view the only obviously s*** player we've signed is Murphy and as a backup in the Championship where he's scored goals isn't exactly a disaster for the nominal fee that was paid. Mate, barely any of our fans understand the concept of a squad. Harsh, many just think we can attract better than Murphy and the WBA winger to build that squad. I don't mind building a squad good enough to get us out of this division and I know we had a bloody good season with a defence featuring Griffin, Bramble, Andy O'brien but I'm looking at this squad and think it will be good enough to go up. I also think it'll need a similar overhaul next season (should we go up). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 If we ship Rivière out for a similar fee to what we paid for Murphy it's unbelievable business iyam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They are blinded by bitterness. They think Rafa is a shit manager and we will be saddled with Championship players when promoted. We needed rebuilding and to build solid foundations. Our back 4 are all under 25 (with Yedlin). Hayden and Shelvey are premier league quality, Ritchie was decent at that level and jury out on the rest but what we will have for first time in a long time is energy, a tactical system and style and cover for all positions without resorting to square pegs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They are blinded by bitterness. They think Rafa is a s*** manager and we will be saddled with Championship players when promoted. We needed rebuilding and to build solid foundations. Our back 4 are all under 25 (with Yedlin). Hayden and Shelvey are premier league quality, Ritchie was decent at that level and jury out on the rest but what we will have for first time in a long time is energy, a tactical system and style and cover for all positions without resorting to square pegs. If square pegs means playing Perez on the left as opposed to the WBA winger then I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They are blinded by bitterness. They think Rafa is a s*** manager and we will be saddled with Championship players when promoted. We needed rebuilding and to build solid foundations. Our back 4 are all under 25 (with Yedlin). Hayden and Shelvey are premier league quality, Ritchie was decent at that level and jury out on the rest but what we will have for first time in a long time is energy, a tactical system and style and cover for all positions without resorting to square pegs. If square pegs means playing Perez on the left as opposed to the WBA winger then I'm all for it. Good to have some direct wingers though even if limited. The main objective at the moment is getting out of this league and building foundations. He wouldn't be my choice of winger but him and Atsu at least offer something different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They are blinded by bitterness. They think Rafa is a s*** manager and we will be saddled with Championship players when promoted. We needed rebuilding and to build solid foundations. Our back 4 are all under 25 (with Yedlin). Hayden and Shelvey are premier league quality, Ritchie was decent at that level and jury out on the rest but what we will have for first time in a long time is energy, a tactical system and style and cover for all positions without resorting to square pegs. If square pegs means playing Perez on the left as opposed to the WBA winger then I'm all for it. Good to have some direct wingers though even if limited. The main objective at the moment is getting out of this league and building foundations. He wouldn't be my choice of winger but him and Atsu at least offer something different I can see about building a squad to get out of this division, I don't see how Murphy and the WBA winger are about laying foundations. If anything it's the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 They are blinded by bitterness. They think Rafa is a s*** manager and we will be saddled with Championship players when promoted. We needed rebuilding and to build solid foundations. Our back 4 are all under 25 (with Yedlin). Hayden and Shelvey are premier league quality, Ritchie was decent at that level and jury out on the rest but what we will have for first time in a long time is energy, a tactical system and style and cover for all positions without resorting to square pegs. If square pegs means playing Perez on the left as opposed to the WBA winger then I'm all for it. Good to have some direct wingers though even if limited. The main objective at the moment is getting out of this league and building foundations. He wouldn't be my choice of winger but him and Atsu at least offer something different I can see about building a squad to get out of this division, I don't see how Murphy and the WBA winger are about laying foundations. If anything it's the opposite. We've lost Cisse, Coloccini, de Jong, Krul, Taylor, and Tiote and Sissoko are on their way supposedly. One or two short term fixes of experience and some older heads in the dressing room aren't the worst idea in the world. The rest of the signings are in the medium to long term view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 If was announced that the world was going to end then they would sit around patting each other on the back about the world ending when they are NETD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 They aren't NETD top dogs as it stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 They aren't NETD top dogs as it stands In the better league marra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Middlesbrough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Middlesbrough? Not many class them to be a real derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 That's not what you said though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 That's not what you said though You honestly think Sunderland fans will class it as a derby after they lost to Boro? Come on man, it only counts when they win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 That's not what you said though You honestly think Sunderland fans will class it as a derby after they lost to Boro? Come on man, it only counts when they win. No you said North East top dogs, and Boro are higher in the table, beat Sunderland last week and are in the North East region Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The 'MLF' patter is utterly cringeworthy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Iborra deal off apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Iborra deal off apparently. Yep, Sevilla have pulled the plug, and Mason has turned them down for Hull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 They should be pleased, one less EU migrant worker for them to be scared of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hart, Mason and Iborra turning down Sunderland or club pulling the plug...good transfer window for this lot so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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