Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He's stated numerous times that he would wear it if it was just about the World Wars. He refuses to wear it because he refuses to honour those that commited the Derry massacre. Quite happy to fund the British Army through his UK taxes though. Like he has a choice where his taxes go.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 The general hatred of Maclean is a bit daft given that those who gave their lives did so to fight fascism and allow freedom of speech. He grew up in a fiercely republican area where the wearing of a poppy would likely get you, at the very least, beaten up so are we seriously expecting him to wear one? He still has family and friends back home and I’m sure their lives would be uncomfortable if he did. Personally, I have no problems with him doing this as like you say, he's from a staunchly Republican family and area. For such a man of principles though, he seems to have no problems paying (quite a lot of) tax to HMRC, knowing fine well that a lot of it is going directly to the British Army......that's where I find him to be an absolute hypocrite. Doesn't the same go for every Republican working in the UK ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 If he'd stayed in NI his taxes from working there would go the british army, would they not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 How dare he pay his taxes in the country of his employment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 UncleBingo would you prefer him to be a tax dodger and not pay his taxes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 UncleBingo would you prefer him to be a tax dodger and not pay his taxes? No, but if he has such a problem with the UK and it's history, go and play somewhere else. I for one, wouldn't work in a country I had problems with.....I turned down a job in Saudi for the very reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 UncleBingo would you prefer him to be a tax dodger and not pay his taxes? No, but if he has such a problem with the UK and it's history, go and play somewhere else. I for one, wouldn't work in a country I had problems with.....I turned down a job in Saudi for the very reason. That would mean he'd not even be able to go home because we still hold it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I don't like our government, our history (to do with the British Empire) and I hate the Royal Family. Guessing i should fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 UncleBingo would you prefer him to be a tax dodger and not pay his taxes? No, but if he has such a problem with the UK and it's history, go and play somewhere else. I for one, wouldn't work in a country I had problems with.....I turned down a job in Saudi for the very reason. Is the poppy a legal requirement of living in England? He has a problem with the Army, not the country Not at all, but it's not just the poppy with him though is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Who mentioned the Royal Family? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Yes. How can you not love the Royal Family? Did you know that the Queen brings in over £989 trillion gazillion for our economy every month? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I don't like our government, our history (to do with the British Empire) and I hate the Royal Family. Guessing i should fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 https://twitter.com/dayganx/status/925394012097347585 https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/status/926462356066062337 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 The general hatred of Maclean is a bit daft given that those who gave their lives did so to fight fascism and allow freedom of speech. He grew up in a fiercely republican area where the wearing of a poppy would likely get you, at the very least, beaten up so are we seriously expecting him to wear one? He still has family and friends back home and I’m sure their lives would be uncomfortable if he did. Personally, I have no problems with him doing this as like you say, he's from a staunchly Republican family and area. For such a man of principles though, he seems to have no problems paying (quite a lot of) tax to HMRC, knowing fine well that a lot of it is going directly to the British Army......that's where I find him to be an absolute hypocrite. Strange thing to say given that not doing so isn’t an option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 things certain in life, death and taxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 https://twitter.com/dayganx/status/925394012097347585 https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/status/926462356066062337 That's fucking outstanding. Retarded thing to say in the first place as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He's stated numerous times that he would wear it if it was just about the World Wars. He refuses to wear it because he refuses to honour those that commited the Derry massacre. That's my standpoint though not specifically about NI - every conflict since WW2 has been politically wrong imo and most have been characterised by war crimes and atrocities committed by people who signed up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. He doesn't constantly make statements though and he doesn't actively hate Britain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 https://twitter.com/dayganx/status/925394012097347585 https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/status/926462356066062337 He’s just gone up in my estimations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Tbf the only reason I don't like McClean is because he seems to have a touch of the Colbacks about him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. He doesn't constantly make statements though and he doesn't actively hate Britain The poppy was brought up by this thread. This is quite the rabbit hole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Should everyone who dislikes the Royal Family also look for employment in a different country? Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. why should he have to play in another country because he doesn't wear a poppy? It's not a legal requirement and everyone who lives here is entitled to their own view. Jingoistic poppy fascism is such bollocks. I agree, and I said I had no problem with him not wearing the poppy because of his Republican background in my original post. I do have a problem with some of his other actions though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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