Yorkie Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 First time we've had real, genuine hope in ages and it's going horribly wrong. Really, really bad start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 If he's persisting with Anita then him and Janmaat need to switch round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just a 'wake up call' tbh. Same if we get turned over again next game and the one after that. No big issues here, just wake up calls. Fucking load of shite. Good job nobody is saying that. They did after Fulham and plenty of people went along with it when it was very clearly cliched Shite tbqh. That was the first game. This isn't, and it isn't acceptable. You're arguing against no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 He needs to make changes. End of. Trust him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Ok Rafa got some things wrong today and against Fulham. Sometimes thats going to happen, no manager is going to get it right 100% of the time and in both games he has made changes in areas where we have identified weaknesses where he can, think Colback being taken off last week and Aarons this week as examples. This is what sets him apart from our previous managers, he's not making the same mistakes and is prepared to admit he is wrong and change things even during games. If people want a team where everything is going to fall into place with a manager who can make mistakes and don't get punished by it then Barcelona and Real Madrid are there support guys. Honestly man the comments of 'Change it or piss off', 'Things are not going to work out' are cringeworthy and I'm sick of hearing them already. Either get behind the best manager we have had and one who has changed so much about the club already and give him a fair chance or piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Ok Rafa got some things wrong today and against Fulham. Sometimes that going to happen, no manager is going to get it right 100% of the time and in both games he has made changes in areas where we have identified weaknesses where he can, think Colback being taken off last week and Aarons this week. This is what sets him apart from our previous managers, he's not making the same mistakes and is prepared to admit he is wrong and change things even during games. If people want a team where everything is going to fall into place with a manager who can make mistakes and don't get punished by it then Barcelona and Real Madrid are there support guys. Honestly man the comments of 'Change it or p*ss off', 'Things are not going to work out' are cringeworthy and I'm sick of hearing them already. Either get behind the best manager we have had and one who has changed so much about the club already and give him a fair chance or p*ss off. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 If he's persisting with Anita then him and Janmaat need to switch round I imagine that is his thinking during general play tbh. He obviously doesnt trust Janmaat bombing forward all the time, so wants somebody who can cover for him when needed. I did not watch today so cant comment, but Anita was diabolical last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just a 'wake up call' tbh. Same if we get turned over again next game and the one after that. No big issues here, just wake up calls. Fucking load of shite. Good job nobody is saying that. They did after Fulham and plenty of people went along with it when it was very clearly cliched Shite tbqh. That was the first game. This isn't, and it isn't acceptable. You're arguing against no one. Be nice if the people who bought it actually admitted it was a load of old gash that, if trotted out by SMc and Colo they'd have been slated. A total nonsense and that's been proven this week. Awful excuse tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Benitez is one of the best managers in Europe. Getting him to hang around and work in this league for you was a coup, no doubt about it. Trust him. There's no way he's going to fail this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Benitez is one of the best managers in Europe. Getting him to hang around and work in this league for you was a coup, no doubt about it. Trust him. There's no way he's going to fail this season. I'm doubtful tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 People are forgetting Rafa has been a failure at other club's, hugely as well. He needs to wake up to what we need in this division and soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 He'll get it right I'm confident of that, but I think he needs to fundamentally change the way he approaches games and sets his team up. I know he's used 4-2-3-1 throughout his career but I'm not sure if this cautious, slow approach to negating the opposition is going to work. Needs horses for courses and that means playing higher, quicker with 2 up top, width and getting after teams from the first whistle. I trust him but something needs to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 People are forgetting Rafa has been a failure at other club's, hugely as well. He needs to wake up to what we need in this division and soon. What clubs was he a failure at? Real Madrid where they hound out every manager?, Napoli where he won stuff with them and was building a squad and only left to join Real Madrid? Inter? Liverpool? Valencia?, the clubs he managed before that which got him the Valencia job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Neesy stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Neesy, when Stifler is schooling you you know you're prontonising yourself. Relax before you leave the atmosphere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 People are forgetting Rafa has been a failure at other club's, hugely as well. He needs to wake up to what we need in this division and soon. What clubs was he a failure at? Real Madrid where they hound out every manager?, Napoli where he won stuff with them and was building a squad and only left to join Real Madrid? Inter? Liverpool? Valencia?, the clubs he managed before that which got him the Valencia job? Real and inter was massive failures tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 He was poor at inter and madrid, no doubt. Won things everywhere else, though, post valencia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 He needs time to weed out the rot that has set in under the last 3 mongalongs that were in charge. It was never going to happen overnight. He has been here for 12 games ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 First time we've had real, genuine hope in ages and it's going horribly wrong. Really, really bad start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 People are forgetting Rafa has been a failure at other club's, hugely as well. He needs to wake up to what we need in this division and soon. Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 People are forgetting Rafa has been a failure at other club's, hugely as well. He needs to wake up to what we need in this division and soon. Oh dear. Zzzzzzzzzzz. Boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 He'll get it right I'm confident of that, but I think he needs to fundamentally change the way he approaches games and sets his team up. I know he's used 4-2-3-1 throughout his career but I'm not sure if this cautious, slow approach to negating the opposition is going to work. Needs horses for courses and that means playing higher, quicker with 2 up top, width and getting after teams from the first whistle. I trust him but something needs to change. All of this is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 While i don't disagree in the slightest do we have the personnel to play like that at the moment? Probably says it all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 If we don't then we need players in. We should've brought a winger and striker in this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Nobody is ever beyond criticism but I have full faith in him and it'll take quite a while to change that. Think people that are faltering already are slightly mental. Think it's going to take a while for people to get used to trusting a manager again. It's also going to take a while for him to fix our badly broken football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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