Guest ElCid Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 People have s*** the bed 7 months prematurely here like. Nowt to indicate he won't be "backed" in the summer either, course we'll sign players. Not getting Townsend isnt the end of the world ffs and Rafa will know that too People are missing the point has nothing to do with missing out only on Townsend, it's the fact that even before the transfer window began Benitez was saying there was a requirement for players and especially more so with Shelvey from the start of the window and yet again the two plebs running this club f*** up again and bring nobody in. The issue is that the manager has been undermined and will not be happy at all after being given full assurances that the club would back him to the hilt. I will be very surprised if Benitez is still in charge come August. Will we go up we should but we are virtually one injury away now from imploding as has been plain to see the last few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Can anyone actually envision a summer in which we sign the 7 players (or so) needed to make us a PL side? Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 'Rafa putting on a brave public face over NUFC's failure to land any of his long declared transfer targets. Privately he is seething'. John 'Ricco' Richardson (Express Journo). Exactly what most people expected to be the case. "Seething". Gotta be a mackem who wrote that. NUFC Fan with good links to Rafa as he used to cover the North West during his time at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 People have shit the bed 7 months prematurely here like. Nowt to indicate he won't be "backed" in the summer either, course we'll sign players. Not getting Townsend isnt the end of the world ffs and Rafa will know that too You don't see the connection with Ashley's greater involvement, Rafa not getting his two targets and the history with this regime? Then you're fucking nuts tbqh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Can anyone actually envision a summer in which we sign the 7 players (or so) needed to make us a PL side? Aye. I think you're having a laugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Can anyone actually envision a summer in which we sign the 7 players (or so) needed to make us a PL side? Aye. I think you're having a laugh. So you're saying we'll get relegated should we go up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Last time did we not just sign Tiote, and Ben Arfa on loan (who got injured all season), hughton and Pardew as managers yet finish comfortably 11th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Last time did we not just sign Tiote, and Ben Arfa on loan (who got injured all season), hughton and Pardew as managers yet finish comfortably 11th We had a better team that time, mind. We'll be going up with half a championship team and half a premier league team this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Can anyone actually envision a summer in which we sign the 7 players (or so) needed to make us a PL side? A Rafa side, or a Pardew in waiting side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 We won't need 7 signings to stay up. 2 or 3 good signings and we'all be fine under Rafa. 4/5 tops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't disagree, but Rafa doesn't want to simply stay up, he's going to want to compete at the top end of the PL as soon as he's back there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't disagree, but Rafa doesn't want to simply stay up, he's going to want to compete at the top end of the PL as soon as he's back there. this is how it will play out now- how long they can pretend to Rafa they are trying to match his ambitions, and how long he puts up with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Can anyone actually envision a summer in which we sign the 7 players (or so) needed to make us a PL side? Aye. I think you're having a laugh. So you're saying we'll get relegated should we go up? See Kanji's post. It should be pretty obvious, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't disagree, but Rafa doesn't want to simply stay up, he's going to want to compete at the top end of the PL as soon as he's back there. He will, but whether he'll expect us to be ready to do that in our first season back is debatable. It might take us a season to get mid-table, then make a real assault for the top end the season after. He's ambitious, not delusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa Benitez doesn't have it in to him to spend a full season trying to avoid a relegation fight. He's far better than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Can anyone actually envision a summer in which we sign the 7 players (or so) needed to make us a PL side? Aye. I think you're having a laugh. So you're saying we'll get relegated should we go up? See Kanji's post. It should be pretty obvious, like. What's that theory based on though? Just because you have a gut feeling about something doesn't make it 100% set in stone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa Benitez doesn't have it in to him to spend a full season trying to avoid a relegation fight. He's far better than that. So it's either challenge at the top or be in a relegation battle? Is it beyond us to finish comfortably mid table like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 That's the mark of a mid-placed team though usually isn't it? A signing or two from pushing on or struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa Benitez doesn't have it in to him to spend a full season trying to avoid a relegation fight. He's far better than that. So it's either challenge at the top or be in a relegation battle? Is it beyond us to finish comfortably mid table like? Absolutely not. Setting mediocrity as the season's target is quite another concept, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa Benitez doesn't have it in to him to spend a full season trying to avoid a relegation fight. He's far better than that. He won't be expected to be in a relegation fight, no one said that. I would have thought he'll be given enough funds to start building a team to challenge for the top positions, but that's not likely to happen in our first season back unless we spend £100m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa Benitez doesn't have it in to him to spend a full season trying to avoid a relegation fight. He's far better than that. So it's either challenge at the top or be in a relegation battle? Is it beyond us to finish comfortably mid table like? Absolutely not. Setting mediocrity as the season's target is quite another concept, though. A mid-table finish for a promoted team is hardly mediocre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Actually to challenge for the top positions, forget £100m, it would probably be closer to double that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I've seen nothing to suggest that we won't back him this summer like. We bought loads of players in the summer, and the previous 2 windows You might want to look back over the last decade, then. Even in the 2 previous windows you mention, one of them was shit and contributed to our relegation and the other saw a huge net profit achieved. Hardly evidence that the penny has dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I've seen nothing to suggest that we won't back him this summer like. We bought loads of players in the summer, and the previous 2 windows You might want to look back over the last decade, then. Even in the 2 previous windows you mention, one of them which s*** and contributed to our relegation and the other saw a huge net profit achieved. Hardly evidence that the penny has dropped. Regardless of profit margins (which are largely completely irrelevant), did the club back the managers in the last 3 windows or not? You could argue that last January we weren't sufficiently backed enough, when we were desperate for a striker and a defender and ended up with Doumbia (s*** and unfit) and no defender. Obviously Townsend and Shelvey came in but we weren't backed enough to cover all of the positions that would have ensured survival unlike Sunderland who needed a defender and got a defender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hindu, ask your mate's dad. He seems to think he should've been tougher about what he wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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