TRon Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Is Andre Gray really that much of an improvement on Gayle, if at all? No, but he'd be an improvement on Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I don't want Sturridge! (very good player though) He hasn't been injured that much this season though as he? Its more him not getting picked Maybe you're right, but at the same time maybe that's the reason he hasn't been injured as much. I just think he'd be a bit too big of a risk for 20-25m or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Mail saying Everton want £20mil for McCarthy and we want to pair him alongside Cairney http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4525524/Everton-willing-sell-20m-midfielder-James-McCarthy.html That would be interesting. I wasn't sold on Cairney, but if he had someone like McCarthy alongside he would probably look a lot better. So would Shelvey mind. Cairney would play as a 10 So would be Cairney McCarthey Shelvey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 He hasn't been playing as a number 10 this season for Fulham mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I don't want Sturridge! (very good player though) He hasn't been injured that much this season though as he? Its more him not getting picked Maybe you're right, but at the same time maybe that's the reason he hasn't been injured as much. I just think he'd be a bit too big of a risk for 20-25m or whatever. It's a fair point tbf, I personally think hes worth the risk but I definitely understanding the scepticism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 He hasn't been playing as a number 10 this season for Fulham mind https://www.whoscored.com/Players/79583/Show/Tom-Cairney Played the majority of the games as an attacking midfielder Scored 8 goals and 9 assists in that position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 In every game I've watched this season of Fulham (including the game against us and the games they've just played against Reading) Cairney plays as a centre mid and Johansen plays as the attacking midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 That WhoScored website says that Cairney played as the attacking mid against us at SJP which he definitely didn't so I think their stats are wrong on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tom-cairney/leistungsdaten/spieler/123275 Transfermarkt are also saying the same mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Cairney's played a fairly free role whenever I've seen him (I never saw the game at SJP like), when Jonansen is ahead of him they often seem to switch, but he did (does?) start behind him. Always thought he looked like a Lallana type who would be comfortable anywhere across midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I think no 10 or no 8 doesn't mean that much these days. It's about balance in the side, and if you had McCarthy in there, you could probably afford to pick Cairney and Shelvey in the same side, especially if your striker is someone like Gayle or better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tom-cairney/leistungsdaten/spieler/123275 Transfermarkt are also saying the same mind Yup and they also say that he played as an attacking mid against us but he was definitely in a midfield 2 with McDonald and Johansen ahead of both of them. I sound like a broken record saying in every thread that Johansen is the player that plays in the number 10 position for Fulham not Cairney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tom-cairney/leistungsdaten/spieler/123275 Transfermarkt are also saying the same mind Yup and they also say that he played as an attacking mid against us but he was definitely in a midfield 2 with McDonald and Johansen ahead of both of them http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39162732 Looking at the lineup, that seem to be the case tbf Anyway if we signed him and McCarthy, I think Rafa would play Cairney as a 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://www.nufc.co.uk/nufc-tv/latest-videos/newcastle-v-fulham-the-full-90 Can have a quick flick through this I suppose to see it. Johansen's #14 and Cairney is #10 Cairney's allowed to get forward a lot but Johansen is definitely the AM. It seems a pretty weird system but I guess it's to allow Cairney as much time on the ball as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The fact the article specifically mentions he wants to pair him with McCarthy specifically states Rafa doesn't see him as an AM either. I know he was great in the championship before his suspension, but i wouldn't be surprised if Rafa wants more options at CM tbh. Should be remembered that Shelvey wasn't a starter in the PL under him. That's not to say he's going to get rid, bench or anything just more competition for places. I know it's a foreign concept for many of us, but if we want to do well in the PL, it's going to be necessary. I suspect the AM target hasn't even been linked yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Shelvey wasn't set to be a starter in the Championship either tbf. At the minute I wouldn't trust anything we hear in the papers, they pretty much never guess our transfers this far in advance iirc. I don't think we'll be spending £30m+ on 2 central midfielders personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Didn't realise that Gabriel Pires has a £6mil release clause http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-could-activate-6m-13067317#ICID=sharebar_twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Torres, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Didn't realise that Gabriel Pires has a £6mil release clause http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-could-activate-6m-13067317#ICID=sharebar_twitter Anyone seen much of him this season? Any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Demairi Gray would be a f***ing class signing at £12m. Hope there's something in that. Definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Demairi Gray would be a f***ing class signing at £12m. Hope there's something in that. Definitely. Done nowt at Leicester tbh, few of there fans don't rate him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Didn't realise that Gabriel Pires has a £6mil release clause http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-could-activate-6m-13067317#ICID=sharebar_twitter Anyone seen much of him this season? Any good? Scored from the halfway line a couple weeks ago. That's about as much as I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Upgrade on Shelvey then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Sounds like this could be a goer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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