Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Basically the stuff wanted/needed in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tomorrow's papers reckon Rafa wants £20m for January to spend on a striker, number 10 and left back and/or goalkeeper: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-demands-20million-transfer-11639923 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/664681/Newcastle-boss-Rafa-Benitez-urges-Mike-Ashley-to-let-him-spend-in-January Of a decent standard, no way he'll get 3 for £20m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tomorrow's papers reckon Rafa wants £20m for January to spend on a striker, number 10 and left back and/or goalkeeper: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-demands-20million-transfer-11639923 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/664681/Newcastle-boss-Rafa-Benitez-urges-Mike-Ashley-to-let-him-spend-in-January Well that will be enough to get another Joselu, Manquillo, Diame and Elliott what’s to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Be nice to have a real keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I'd actually be excited as f*** if we signed Casillas even though he's nowhere near what he was. When was the last time we had a 'name' like that? Sol Campbell? I’d buy a f***ing keeper shirt if we got Casillas If you want to be labelled a massive nonce, that's up to you. Unreal. Kaiz has been rinsed from all angles today like, it's been relentless. It’s not been one of my best dates, that’s for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Aarons linked away at the bottom of this: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle/15701841.NEWCASTLE__Rafael_Benitez_will_be_pushing_for_a_transfer_kitty_regardless_of_who_owns_the_Magpies/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tomorrow's papers reckon Rafa wants £20m for January to spend on a striker, number 10 and left back and/or goalkeeper: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-demands-20million-transfer-11639923 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/664681/Newcastle-boss-Rafa-Benitez-urges-Mike-Ashley-to-let-him-spend-in-January Of a decent standard, no way he'll get 3 for £20m. Maybe we'll sell Mitrovic or Gayle to top the funds up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tomorrow's papers reckon Rafa wants £20m for January to spend on a striker, number 10 and left back and/or goalkeeper: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-demands-20million-transfer-11639923 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/664681/Newcastle-boss-Rafa-Benitez-urges-Mike-Ashley-to-let-him-spend-in-January Of a decent standard, no way he'll get 3 for £20m. Maybe we'll sell Mitrovic or Gayle to top the funds up a bit. 17million Striker and 3 1million loans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tomorrow's papers reckon Rafa wants £20m for January to spend on a striker, number 10 and left back and/or goalkeeper: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-demands-20million-transfer-11639923 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/664681/Newcastle-boss-Rafa-Benitez-urges-Mike-Ashley-to-let-him-spend-in-January Of a decent standard, no way he'll get 3 for £20m. Maybe we'll sell Mitrovic or Gayle to top the funds up a bit. 17million Striker and 3 1million loans. Does that include their wages? Got to look at it from Ashley's perspective, and we went through all this in the summer when Rafa was publicly complaining that what was agreed in priniciple turned out to mean something else in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Does this this 20m include any extras from outgoing players? Colback,Haidara,Saivet,Diame, im sure he'd love to flog Mitro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Few random unrelated points: Sounds like in the top flight loans are not 1 million anymore, unless you are doing the loaning club a huge favour. 20 million will never be enough to fix all our issues, but I would rather us not waste it on 4 Joselu's, it's clear what 5 million buys you, therefore quality over quantity is important. Rafa isn't great in the transfer market, that's clear to see from his time at Liverpool and with us, he does strike gold sometimes though but we need some buffer built into our budget to allow him to mess up or shorten the odds on signing that quality we desperately need. May need to sell a player or two we don't want to lose in order to move forward: Ritchie, Shelvey Mbemba, Clark or Colback obviously integral players but we need the money to reinvest in other areas. Since there's clearly no sign of a takeover then finding additional funds is going to be vital. We absolutely must get rid of the deadwood we couldn't shift in the summer, but it's probably going to be even tougher in a January window, when we've given no shop window for them to shine in previous months, the best we can possibly hope for is a loan move away for the likes of Saviet, Haidara, the aforementioned ginger one and if we secure a proper keeper one of Elliot/Darlow. Mitro and Gayle have some value because they are strikers but we've given neither of them a stage to set there worth by playing a fake footballer ahead of them for much of the season. We absolutely have to hit the ground running in the window, lets not get left behind like we did in the summer and keep missing out on the players we desperately need, I hope they have learned their lessons, but I highly doubt it. Woodman and Aarons need to get some sustained game time, that's not likely to be in our first team, so we need to get them shipped out on loan to a championship team, both should be good enough to hold down a first team place there and we have to see what we have before we don't have it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonis Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Few random unrelated points: Rafa isn't great in the transfer market, that's clear to see from his time at Liverpool and with us, he does strike gold sometimes though but we need some buffer built into our budget to allow him to mess up or shorten the odds on signing that quality we desperately need. This is wrong. He bought and built really well with us, and also at Napoli where the team he built is the one doing so well now. I thought he bought well for you for last season. Maybe not so much for this, but he wasn't given loads and he found you a bargain in Merino. Yes, he buys a few players at lower prices who don't work out, but then that applies to all who rummage at the bottom end of the market. The problem is when you only have a few quid, nearly every buy has to work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Few random unrelated points: Rafa isn't great in the transfer market, that's clear to see from his time at Liverpool and with us, he does strike gold sometimes though but we need some buffer built into our budget to allow him to mess up or shorten the odds on signing that quality we desperately need. This is wrong. He bought and built really well with us, and also at Napoli where the team he built is the one doing so well now. I thought he bought well for you for last season. Maybe not so much for this, but he wasn't given loads and he found you a bargain in Merino. Yes, he buys a few players at lower prices who don't work out, but then that applies to all who rummage at the bottom end of the market. The problem is when you only have a few quid, nearly every buy has to work out. As you say we're shopping in the bargain bins, no manager would get them all right. It seems to be a criticism levelled at Rafa as if other managers always get every transfer right. Baffling tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Few random unrelated points: Rafa isn't great in the transfer market, that's clear to see from his time at Liverpool and with us, he does strike gold sometimes though but we need some buffer built into our budget to allow him to mess up or shorten the odds on signing that quality we desperately need. This is wrong. He bought and built really well with us, and also at Napoli where the team he built is the one doing so well now. I thought he bought well for you for last season. Maybe not so much for this, but he wasn't given loads and he found you a bargain in Merino. Yes, he buys a few players at lower prices who don't work out, but then that applies to all who rummage at the bottom end of the market. The problem is when you only have a few quid, nearly every buy has to work out. Totally agree - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/rafael-benitez/spielertransfers/trainer/1522 Particular highlights being: Napoli - Higuain, Callejon, Jorginho, Mertens, Koulibaly and Ghoulam Liverpool - Torres, Mascherano, Alonso and Reina He's definitely bought a few duds in his time, but the list above is pretty impressive work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He didn't buy Coutinho fwiw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Yup. He had a budget last year and even though he signed a few duds in Sels, Gamez and Lazaar (Hanley too, but he served a purpose and his fee was easily recouped) - he made several massive signings that effectively secured promotion. Gayle, Ritchie and Clark were brilliant signings and probably our top three key players. Then there was Hayden, who played a big role, and Yedlin, Atsu and Murphy - all of whom were useful. It's not his fault that those key players remain three of our most key players. To say they're not good enough for the Premier League shouldn't be a stick to beat Rafa with. They were necessary for promotion and should have been built upon as the foundation of the squad. As for the likes of Manquillo and Joselu - it's simply what you get for the budget we were working with. No blame there (although he needn't bliddy play em so much). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm not sure if he bought him for Inter either Wiki says he was bought by Inter in 2008, when Rafa was at Liverpool, but he had to remain in Brazil until he was 18 EDIT: Ah, post has been deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm not sure if he bought him for Inter either Wiki says he was bought by Inter in 2008, when Rafa was at Liverpool, but he had to remain in Brazil until he was 18 EDIT: Ah, post has been deleted yeah - had a mare with Coutinho there...! Didn't seem like he bought anyone of note at Inter at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 His Napoli transfers look really impressive now definitely. Been linked with a centre back called Jack Hendry in the Mail fwiw http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5148255/Southampton-Newcastle-Palace-keeping-tabs-Hendry.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonis Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm not sure if he bought him for Inter either Wiki says he was bought by Inter in 2008, when Rafa was at Liverpool, but he had to remain in Brazil until he was 18 EDIT: Ah, post has been deleted yeah - had a mare with Coutinho there...! Didn't seem like he bought anyone of note at Inter at all. Hence the reason he called out Morratti and got himself fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In the summer when he was looking for an experienced keeper I was saying that our priorities should lie elsewhere because we had Elliot, Darlow and Krul I was proved totally wrong and our keepers have looked so ordinary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I don't understand why anyone thought otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm not really looking beyond one big signing at this stage, and I'm not too hopeful even if we get that. I don't think £15m buys you a proven striker unless he's over 30, which we'd never sanction. We paid £13m for Mitrovic before the prices doubled, are we likely to get anyone better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Gayle linked with Wolves in a brummie paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He'd probably sit on their bench too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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