Yorkie Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Feels like we've said it of so many players/people through the Ashley years, but it was clear as day two years ago that Gayle had to be ungraded on. Two years on and we're still relying on him. It's ridiculous and, in a sentimental way, unfair on the guy. If he'd left permanently in summer '18 he'd be tearing it up in the Championship and would be remembered here as a vital contributor to our promotion and consolidation. Christ knows what we're gonna be saying about Shelvey and Ritchie in three years' time. Folks will barely even remember their positive contributions by the time they're gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Thought he was good for us in the Championship but what we’ve done with Gayle is the equivalent of us not upgrading on David Kelly after promotion (I know we signed Cole a few months before but point stands). Criminal that he’s still starting for us 3 years after promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Feels like we've said it of so many players/people through the Ashley years, but it was clear as day two years ago that Gayle had to be ungraded on. Two years on and we're still relying on him. It's ridiculous and, in a sentimental way, unfair on the guy. If he'd left permanently in summer '18 he'd be tearing it up in the Championship and would be remembered here as a vital contributor to our promotion and consolidation. Christ knows what we're gonna be saying about Shelvey and Ritchie in three years' time. Folks will barely even remember their positive contributions by the time they're gone. People refuse to acknowledge his positive contributions the moment they happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Probably said elsewhere, but the big difference between Gayle and Joe Linton is that Gayle actually gets into positions to score. Gayle's movement into scoring positions is miles better and more instinctive than Linton's. Aye, Gayle's finishing stats are fucking dreadful in the premier league, but he does actually get into goalscoring positions, whereas Lintonsy just doesn't. Because he isn't a central striker. Yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Never understood that either but too each their own. ' @newstead or@Newstead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I've never taken to Gayle as a player for some reason. I have a fondness for his Championship season with us, but of all the "prolific" strikers we've had over the years, he's some way down my list of favourites. That said, I like to think I'm rational enough to praise him when he's deserving of it, even if he's not one of my favourite players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 But weird how so many have turned on Gayle. Done so much more than so many for the club. Think it's more to do with him getting over praised just to have a go at Joelinton. I've always liked Gayle, but he's struggled for goals and fitness since we got promoted. Should have just swapped him for Rondon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 My criticism of Gayle is 100% based on the fact that he's an unreliable striker for this club today because of 1) injury issues destroying his pace and time on the pitch and 2) he's not scoring the goals. He should have gone a year+ ago - there is no question he was fantastic for us in the Championship and by all accounts a really good guy on and off the pitch. So no issue there. The sentimental attachment just simply has to be removed - he's not good enough in his current health/form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 See also Carroll, A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 My criticism of Gayle is 100% based on the fact that he's an unreliable striker for this club today because of 1) injury issues destroying his pace and time on the pitch and 2) he's not scoring the goals. He should have gone a year+ ago - there is no question he was fantastic for us in the Championship and by all accounts a really good guy on and off the pitch. So no issue there. The sentimental attachment just simply has to be removed - he's not good enough in his current health/form. But better than the alternative who - through no fault of his own - is not fit for purpose. We genuinely would've been better off keeping Joselu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Probably said elsewhere, but the big difference between Gayle and Joe Linton is that Gayle actually gets into positions to score. Gayle's movement into scoring positions is miles better and more instinctive than Linton's. Aye, Gayle's finishing stats are fucking dreadful in the premier league, but he does actually get into goalscoring positions, whereas Lintonsy just doesn't. Because he isn't a central striker. Yet. But Joelinton does set up more chances for teammates when they actually get up in support of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Probably said elsewhere, but the big difference between Gayle and Joe Linton is that Gayle actually gets into positions to score. Gayle's movement into scoring positions is miles better and more instinctive than Linton's. Aye, Gayle's finishing stats are f***ing dreadful in the premier league, but he does actually get into goalscoring positions, whereas Lintonsy just doesn't. Because he isn't a central striker. Yet. But Joelinton does set up more chances for teammates when they actually get up in support of him. I'm not sure that's true. Gayle's support play is quite good, played a great through ball to ASM at the weekend to put him through on goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Probably said elsewhere, but the big difference between Gayle and Joe Linton is that Gayle actually gets into positions to score. Gayle's movement into scoring positions is miles better and more instinctive than Linton's. Aye, Gayle's finishing stats are f***ing dreadful in the premier league, but he does actually get into goalscoring positions, whereas Lintonsy just doesn't. Because he isn't a central striker. Yet. But Joelinton does set up more chances for teammates when they actually get up in support of him. I'm not sure that's true. Gayle's support play is quite good, played a great through ball to ASM at the weekend to put him through on goal I'm not saying he's rubbish though, just imo Joelinton's is better, we haven't really seen it as we've been playing him isolated for most of the season. How good would Gayle look in that formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Probably said elsewhere, but the big difference between Gayle and Joe Linton is that Gayle actually gets into positions to score. Gayle's movement into scoring positions is miles better and more instinctive than Linton's. Aye, Gayle's finishing stats are fucking dreadful in the premier league, but he does actually get into goalscoring positions, whereas Lintonsy just doesn't. Because he isn't a central striker. Yet. Like I put on the previous page, at least Bentaleb was showing for the ball to receive it before he misplaced his passes. Find this as a defence of Gayle very odd tbh. If he’s missing chances once he’s in those positions, what’s the point of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Probably said elsewhere, but the big difference between Gayle and Joe Linton is that Gayle actually gets into positions to score. Gayle's movement into scoring positions is miles better and more instinctive than Linton's. Aye, Gayle's finishing stats are f***ing dreadful in the premier league, but he does actually get into goalscoring positions, whereas Lintonsy just doesn't. Because he isn't a central striker. Yet. Like I put on the previous page, at least Bentaleb was showing for the ball to receive it before he misplaced his passes. Find this as a defence of Gayle very odd tbh. If he’s missing chances once he’s in those positions, what’s the point of that? Because it's getting us up the field/into the box, creating chances for other players, winning corners, causing confusion in the opposition defence, etc. You clearly just have an agenda against Gayle because it's pretty obvious that it's better to be missing chances than not having them at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I don’t have an agenda, I’ve given plenty of reasons why I don’t rate him at this level based on what I see. Sorry you don’t agree but get to fuck with the agenda crap man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I thought it was pretty obvious to most that Gayle is one of those, too good for the championship but not quite good enough for the Premiership types. A good lad who who want to do well, but know at this level he just lacks that little extra, Rafa knew it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I thought it was pretty obvious to most that Gayle is one of those, too good for the championship but not quite good enough for the Premiership types. A good lad who who want to do well, but know at this level he just lacks that little extra, Rafa knew it like. Yes, everybody knows that, its about him being better than Joelinton, not being a top striker or anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I thought it was pretty obvious to most that Gayle is one of those, too good for the championship but not quite good enough for the Premiership types. A good lad who who want to do well, but know at this level he just lacks that little extra, Rafa knew it like. Yes, everybody knows that, its about him being better than Joelinton, not being a top striker or anything Does it matter? We're all but safe. Gayle will be flogged and we'll be looking to sign another dud in the summer to compare Joelinton against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I thought it was pretty obvious to most that Gayle is one of those, too good for the championship but not quite good enough for the Premiership types. A good lad who who want to do well, but know at this level he just lacks that little extra, Rafa knew it like. Yes, everybody knows that, its about him being better than Joelinton, not being a top striker or anything Ah yes then carry on, and I'll not stick my dinky size 7 in without reading further back next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Dwight ‘natural goalscorer at any level [sB]’ Gayle. Alarming the number of chances around the 6-yard box he seems to miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Honestly think any Newcastle fan making that type of video about one of our players needs to have a word with themselves. It’s not like he’s had commitment issues. The lad has been plagued by some injuries and missed some chances. He’s probably not good enough at Premier League level but that’s embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 The goal he scored against Sheffield was well taken mind, although yeah he has been found wanting at this level, not really much doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Honestly think any Newcastle fan making that type of video about one of our players needs to have a word with themselves. It’s not like he’s had commitment issues. The lad has been plagued by some injuries and missed some chances. He’s probably not good enough at Premier League level but that’s embarrassing. Penn made it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Stupid video. His finishing is fine. What does he get, one chance a month? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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