Menace Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 His high work rate hides the fact that he's really not very good at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Selling him would be stupid. We need to be building a squad. We should keep him and look to bring in more wingers in the summer. To have Ritchie as back up/ fighting for a starting 11 position would be great. Also he compliments Yedlin well. People keep mentioning pace, but he allows Yedlin to overlap and offers a more solid foundation defensively in front of Yedlin. How many times have we seen Yedlin overlap and get a good cut back in this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. Well he can't carry the ball because of his lack of pace like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. Well he can't carry the ball because of his lack of pace like Its not down to pace, its down to ball control. Jonas had no pace but could carry the ball. Robert Lee could for us as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. Obertan was exactly like that and it was always infuriating to watch. A player with that much pace at his disposal and 99/100 he'd pussy out of taking the man on and just end up dropping the ball back to Danny Simpson in our half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. Obertan was exactly like that and it was always infuriating to watch. A player with that much pace at his disposal and 99/100 he'd pussy out of taking the man on and just end up dropping the ball back to Danny Simpson in our half. He had pace but zero ball control so when he did run with the ball he looked like a headless chicken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. One thing I don't get is, why doesn't he cross the ball earlier instead of constantly cutting back? You don't need pace for that, just got to look at Albrighton's crossing, and Beckham's for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. One thing I don't get is, why doesn't he cross the ball earlier instead of constantly cutting back? You don't need pace for that, just got to look at Albrighton's crossing, and Beckham's for that matter. Lack of confidence? Maybe Rafa has instructed him not to? Its frustrating like and doesn't help our attack at all. Gayle was furious with him a few matches back IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 He's a solid player, definitely one to keep in the squad. The lad needs to be rested for a few games. He's looked totally shot for the last month. When he's bright he can be the difference in some games. If we get a decent offer maybe Rafa would listen to offers but even if we sold him for a profit, what would that bring in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. One thing I don't get is, why doesn't he cross the ball earlier instead of constantly cutting back? You don't need pace for that, just got to look at Albrighton's crossing, and Beckham's for that matter. Lack of confidence? Maybe Rafa has instructed him not to? Its frustrating like and doesn't help our attack at all. Gayle was furious with him a few matches back IIRC. He's a left footed player that predominantly plays on the right. Of course he cuts in. I'm sure Beckham would get it onto his right if he was played on the left, and Albrighton does exactly that at all times. FWIW, I have no problem with Ritchie, he's in poor form at the moment, that's really obvious, but at a basic level he gives you a certain amount of tenacity and desire to get involved that you wouldn't get with other players. When he's back in form he'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. One thing I don't get is, why doesn't he cross the ball earlier instead of constantly cutting back? You don't need pace for that, just got to look at Albrighton's crossing, and Beckham's for that matter. Lack of confidence? Maybe Rafa has instructed him not to? Its frustrating like and doesn't help our attack at all. Gayle was furious with him a few matches back IIRC. He's a left footed player that predominantly plays on the right. Of course he cuts in. I'm sure Beckham would get it onto his right if he was played on the left, and Albrighton does exactly that at all times. FWIW, I have no problem with Ritchie, he's in poor form at the moment, that's really obvious, but at a basic level he gives you a certain amount of tenacity and desire to get involved that you wouldn't get with other players. When he's back in form he'll be fine. Been "out of form" for absolutely ages mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. One thing I don't get is, why doesn't he cross the ball earlier instead of constantly cutting back? You don't need pace for that, just got to look at Albrighton's crossing, and Beckham's for that matter. Lack of confidence? Maybe Rafa has instructed him not to? Its frustrating like and doesn't help our attack at all. Gayle was furious with him a few matches back IIRC. He's a left footed player that predominantly plays on the right. Of course he cuts in. I'm sure Beckham would get it onto his right if he was played on the left, and Albrighton does exactly that at all times. FWIW, I have no problem with Ritchie, he's in poor form at the moment, that's really obvious, but at a basic level he gives you a certain amount of tenacity and desire to get involved that you wouldn't get with other players. When he's back in form he'll be fine. Been "out of form" for absolutely ages mind Only a couple of months. Compare that to Perez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its not his lack of pace that makes him an average player, despite what some would have you believe, you don't have to be quick to succeed in the PL. Its the way he slows the game down from an attacking sense. He cannot carry the ball because he doesn't have the ball carrying skills so he's constantly checking himself looking for a safe pass and it effects our game going forward. He doesn't have a good range of passing either. Defensively he's fine, works hard, has a good attitude and takes a good set piece. He can be effective in tight games, but going forward the likes of Atsu and Murphy give us much much more just with their ball carrying skills, pace and ability to play on the cuff of the game. One thing I don't get is, why doesn't he cross the ball earlier instead of constantly cutting back? You don't need pace for that, just got to look at Albrighton's crossing, and Beckham's for that matter. Lack of confidence? Maybe Rafa has instructed him not to? Its frustrating like and doesn't help our attack at all. Gayle was furious with him a few matches back IIRC. He's a left footed player that predominantly plays on the right. Of course he cuts in. I'm sure Beckham would get it onto his right if he was played on the left, and Albrighton does exactly that at all times. FWIW, I have no problem with Ritchie, he's in poor form at the moment, that's really obvious, but at a basic level he gives you a certain amount of tenacity and desire to get involved that you wouldn't get with other players. When he's back in form he'll be fine. Been "out of form" for absolutely ages mind Only a couple of months. Compare that to Perez. Aye but I wouldn't say Perez is out of form. He's just not very good, in the position he's played in for the last two and a half seasons anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 So, So Pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 So bad. I know he's not blessed with pace, but he seems to have gotten even slower. He doesn't run around like a loon and track back as much as he did last season. Even his set pieces, which are such an asset, seem to have gone to shit. Basically, from open play, he has been ineffectual for nigh on the entire season. Consistently gets in the team, but IMO, has probably been our worst first team regular. I know he has got some important assists from corners and free kicks. But along with a lot of other players in this squad, he just isn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I hate the way he slows down every single attack. The opposition have time for a cuppa and a biscuit before they stroll back into position and our attack comes to nowt. Needs dropping for Murphy asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Seems to run without moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Glad Rafa kept him on, otherwise who else would take shite set pieces? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Need a right footer on the right now. He's so one footed its ridiculous. He cannot beat a man either. Murphy next week please rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's totally the wrong style of player for this team. He needs to be in a team that bosses the ball and wants posession like Bournemouth. The fact we persist with him over wingers totally more suited to counter attacking football is annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Did nothing bar that one pass for about 85 minutes, then did ok when it opened up after that. Story of the last 4 months or so really, just too slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He just looks absolutely knackered. He needs to be dropped for his good and our good. Hopefully he can come back fresh in a few games time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 It just makes no sense to have him in the team when we defend so deep, takes him ages to get forward when we gain possession and then ages to get back when we lose it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I hate the way he slows down every single attack. The opposition have time for a cuppa and a biscuit before they stroll back into position and our attack comes to nowt. Needs dropping for Murphy asap. Yep. Gets the ball, looks around, has several options, instead decides to slow down and do nothing but pass it to the nearest team mate. Every time. His set pieces were shit today as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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